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creditninja9000
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doing a product change? BEWARE

If you're doing a product change, unless its going to allow you to keep your same card number (switching networks/combining cards wouldn't apply most likely), be careful.

I just found out the hard way with Bank of America that it's hell to try and make a claim using any of the benefits associated with products you may have previously had. Found out the hard way that I relinquished any benefits associated with my Platinumb Plus Visa when I switched to my Amex Rewards card. On top of that, no one seems to know at all if the problem can be solved.

Something to think about if you're changing products on an account you'd had for a while. I've had the Visa with BoA since over a year ago so I lost coverage on any items I may have purchased.......It's very irritating, I only bought the PSP I was making a claim on a week before doing the switch. Can't predict the future but if I had known it would be this much of a pain I'd have waiting until I got my Amex and went and bought it later.

Message Edited by ejbeasley on 04-14-2008 07:22 PM
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When I upgraded my card the past weekend from Gold Visa to Worldpoints, the csr lady told me that if I had any affiliated programs or rewards program with the Gold Visa card, I will lose it since it will be a different product that I upgrade to. CSR is suppose to disclose that information in case you change your mind.
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Anonymous
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Were you able to keep your account history and APRs at least?
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Solarjuju wrote:
When I upgraded my card the past weekend from Gold Visa to Worldpoints, the csr lady told me that if I had any affiliated programs or rewards program with the Gold Visa card, I will lose it since it will be a different product that I upgrade to. CSR is suppose to disclose that information in case you change your mind.


ejbeasley,  I agree with Solarjuju.   When I switched program (Chase Flexible to Chase Freedom) on one of my CC, CSR told me that too.   This should be the same even BofA.  Your story is something strange...  because they have to provide the information to you before switching the program include  CC Number, APR, Reward Program, Billing Cycle etc.

The otherwise, you should ask questions too.  Don't depend on them to tell you everything!

In my case ... same CC Number, same APR, same Billing Cycle, Same CL with new card design and new Reward Program.  Of cause carry over the acct history too.



Message Edited by bunnyrabbit on 04-14-2008 05:59 PM
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creditninja9000
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The CSR never explained I'd be giving up the coverage.
I was told my interest rate would stay the same and my benefits would essentially be identical, he did read all disclosures to me.

This is where I got puzzled. My other Visa accounts that I closed are still eligible to receive their benefits with Visa, but yes it is my fault for making the assumption. I found out that BoA does not receive its benefits through Visa they're contracted to another third party insurance company or something. The moment I did the product change the card essentially no longer existed in their systems...

I can't make a claim using my BoA amex now because the purcahse wasn't made with that card, it was made with the Visa. All in all I think it's something BoA should fix. Otherwise I would have just made the purchase with my one of my other cards.......

The other problem is that even if I had asked this answer specifically I probably would have gotten an uncertain answer anyway as proven by the 5 people I talked to this morning not being sure why I still don't have coverage either, or blaming it on Visa saying I need to talk to them, when Visa has nothing to do with providing the coverage anyway. I was even told by Visa that BoA chose not to provide their coverage through Visa's Warranty manager. Which explains how instead of coverages products with warranties up to 3 years, I only get coverages on ones with less than 1 year instead.

In the end I just think it's shady that they only provide one sentence on their website about this stuff and it seems that the CSRs also only have access to this one sentence. Who would really still have all the information that came with a card they got a long time ago......

Message Edited by ejbeasley on 04-14-2008 07:37 PM
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Anonymous
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That really is piss poor...sorry to hear.
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Anonymous
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Did BofA force this product switch on you, or did you decide to do it?

So whose fault is it for not researching adequately the ramifications of the product switch before it happened?

Had you not made the decision, you would not be in this situation.

I'm sorry, I don't see a victim here. Just an unfortunate mistake.
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creditninja9000
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@Anonymous wrote:
Did BofA force this product switch on you, or did you decide to do it?

So whose fault is it for not researching adequately the ramifications of the product switch before it happened?

Had you not made the decision, you would not be in this situation.

I'm sorry, I don't see a victim here. Just an unfortunate mistake.


Yes, that's all it is, is a mistake. And like I said in my post earlier, I asked him about the new terms and any changes, losing benefits of the old card was not one of them.

Typically benefits are still valid regardless of whether or not an account is open or closed (and in this case it's technically still open anyway which is why I got frustrated).

Two, as I said before, there nothing to research, there nothing listed on the website, so I must rely on the word of CSRs who have all told me different things about the situation and still are unable to solve it. I even found my terms and conditions there's nothing listed in them about losing coverage for doing a product change or closing the account.

The thing I'm frustrated with is the inconsistency, and lack of knowledge, that's about it. Customer service is bad, instead of sticking with me to get an answer (and find out the true answer for themselves also), they'd rather give me a bunch of numbers and transfer me in loops.

THAT'S why I was upset. It's not about being the victim or not getting what I want. If they do proper research, find the answer if no, and can point out in my agreement validation for the answer, I'll be happy. I've done customer service, regardless if the final word is NO, a customer feels happier knowing resources were exhausted.

The reason I'm making a big deal of this is because it is going to help me determine how much I really want to invest building a relationship with BoA vs another bank instead. It might even help other people, as BoA has not been very great lately.

And last, I read about people wanting to do product changes almost everyday. My intention was to WARN THEM. Some of them decide they'll switch later, some do it right away after getting their card. Obviously the sooner the better if the circumstances in my case are what usually applies. Changes months, even a year later could make all that much of a difference if you expect to use the benefitss that come with your card.
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creditninja9000
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I also like how most of those who chose to respond where quickly ready to accuse me of being a bad consumer, instead of my post being a warning, which was all it was intended to be.

I am irritated yes, but beyond being upset about possibly not getting it covered, I already went and got a new PSP, again I'm only upset with the lack of knowledge and good customer service from them. Find out if the real answer is yes or no! I keep being told yes we can get it covered, then no you have no coverage, blah, blah.

People do make mistakes, aside from this case, no one needs a smart alec. We're supposed to be helping each other here, which is what my post was for, a warning.....
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