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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?


@Anonymous wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@Shock wrote:

i got screwed then


Yeah you missed those points Smiley Sad


I can't speak to federal taxes specifically, but I know property taxes and a number of other governmental charging systems like for parking tickets, etc., carry an extra cost for paying by credit OR debit card, labeled as a convenience fee or a processing fee that I assume is for covering merchant fees. Sometimes it's as small as $2-$5 flat, other times it can be as a high as 2 or 3% of the amount being charged with a two-dollar charge tacked on. Unfortunately, I've found that the additional fees wipe out any cashback or point value that I might have gotten. It's only in cases like OP's where one needs to defer payment that paying by card is worth it.


Yes there's a fee either way but some points are better than none if you don't have the cash ..........your still getting points for the transaction

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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lg8302ch
Senior Contributor

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?


@myjourney wrote:

Split card UTL

Here's the reason why 

If it's on one card you get double dinged in Fico scoring for high UTL and then again as maxed out


This is YMMV ... I had Discover reported with 2475$ balance out of 2500$ and my scores were still 793....now I have small balances on 7 out of my 9 accounts and got dinged to 757... util is  2% now and was about 4% when my Discover was maxed out. For me it for sure is better to only have a high balance on 1 card rather than split around. Smiley Happy  I will pay down to 0 by end of May and leave the balance on 1 card only. Like this I expect to get back up close to 800. We will see.

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?

I'm fairly confident the maxed out card penalty kicks in higher than 75%.

 

As for federal taxes: yup, if you have a 2% or better default spending card, good times!  Otherwise it's cheaper to use a check of some sort.  15K tax bill or whatever and losing .5% doesn't strike me as a good time personally if on a 1% card, something like 1.56% for the cheapest IRS online payment place.

 

If it were me I'd float it on a single card, BOFA likely being more favorable than Penfed from reports here.

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Shock
Established Contributor

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?

I only owed like 400 bucks on my tax return so it wasnt that bad. But I tried to pay by card for my state (CA) and they wouldnt et me, assuming they didnt want to be charged merchant fee. I would assume the federal government is the same way. If enough people swiped their balances owed, they could be losing substantial money,

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avggoal700
Frequent Contributor

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?


@Revelate wrote:

I'm fairly confident the maxed out card penalty kicks in higher than 75%.

 

As for federal taxes: yup, if you have a 2% or better default spending card, good times!  Otherwise it's cheaper to use a check of some sort.  15K tax bill or whatever and losing .5% doesn't strike me as a good time personally if on a 1% card, something like 1.56% for the cheapest IRS online payment place.

 

If it were me I'd float it on a single card, BOFA likely being more favorable than Penfed from reports here.

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I keep reading different %s as far as maxed out is concerned 




EX 706. TU 705 EQ 682. Avg 698
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?


@Shock wrote:

I only owed like 400 bucks on my tax return so it wasnt that bad. But I tried to pay by card for my state (CA) and they wouldnt et me, assuming they didnt want to be charged merchant fee. I would assume the federal government is the same way. If enough people swiped their balances owed, they could be losing substantial money,


Not certain on CA: think I used a credit card to pay mine but may have just written a check for my past balance due.  Would have to go look at my records but pretty certain it wasn't a debit card and I don't use checks for much of anything past rent and a few onesy-twosie type things annually.

 

Regarding Fed: they have a transaction fee which looks suspiciously like a merchant fee + half a point or whatever.  Can make an arbitrage play if your credit limit is high enough, and your rewards package is strong enough.  If I wind up being self-employed again in the future, or otherwise having to pay quarterly estimated taxes, oh to have a 2% card, just saying Smiley Happy.




        
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?


@avggoal700 wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

I'm fairly confident the maxed out card penalty kicks in higher than 75%.

 

As for federal taxes: yup, if you have a 2% or better default spending card, good times!  Otherwise it's cheaper to use a check of some sort.  15K tax bill or whatever and losing .5% doesn't strike me as a good time personally if on a 1% card, something like 1.56% for the cheapest IRS online payment place.

 

If it were me I'd float it on a single card, BOFA likely being more favorable than Penfed from reports here.

.


I keep reading different %s as far as maxed out is concerned 


Same, I've heard both 80 and 90%, but I've had a card which didn't get dinged around the 75ish% line IIRC (might have not quite gotten there), but I'm absolutely familiar with the maxxed out penalty at 99.87% and 99.93% respectively (did a repeated test year on my BCP, good times, 14 point drop each time though part of that might be the 10-33% total revolving utilization as I was at 13 and 27% respectively on the two tries, pre and post CLI).  EQ Beacon 5.0 was the score used for tracking it.

 

Maybe if I have some expenses in the future I'll try it, or for S+G I'll use one of the convenience checks BOFA just sent me and put my card at 76%, or just max it and then make a payment putting it at various limits on the way down... maybe I'll do that actually after breaking in the new Chase card.




        
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Imua
Frequent Contributor

Re: high utl on 1 card or spread utl to many ?


@lg8302ch wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

Split card UTL

Here's the reason why 

If it's on one card you get double dinged in Fico scoring for high UTL and then again as maxed out


This is YMMV ... I had Discover reported with 2475$ balance out of 2500$ and my scores were still 793....now I have small balances on 7 out of my 9 accounts and got dinged to 757... util is  2% now and was about 4% when my Discover was maxed out. For me it for sure is better to only have a high balance on 1 card rather than split around. Smiley Happy  I will pay down to 0 by end of May and leave the balance on 1 card only. Like this I expect to get back up close to 800. We will see.


i recently had a "negative factor affecting my score" of having balances on 45% of my cards (EQ FICO 802).  my balances on the 3 cards that had balances were all under or around $100.  my overall util was, iirc, <5%.  i don't know how much of a "hit" my score took, but it was the only listed "factor". 

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