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@Anonymous wrote:I joined that Family Assoc. so I could apply for a penfed card (denied, thanks!) I paid the $25 fee online, through their website, with my Wachovia Visa debit card.When I checked my Wachovia online statement, there is a $25 cash advance from Penfed. According to my bank, it looks like they took money out of an ATM in Alexandria. My bank says I need to talk to PenFed, but my question is:How could they make something look like a cash advance?And how can you take out a cash advance on a debit card? If I just withdrew money from an ATM, that's not a cash advance.Also, I was charged a 3.00 "cash advance fee". Grrr.