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I guess I'm what they call a "thin" file. Good scores among all three bureaus averaging 760. I was one to never chase credit as never really had to, was able to pay cash for cars, paid off my mortage, and etc. I have one Cap1 card with a small $1350 limit that I've had for 22 years, carried a small balance and never had to use much at all. Never even bothered trying for CLI...
My question is I'm wanting thicken up my file by adding both another card (I've read may be best to add 2?) as well as will be needing to add an auto loan.
My question is which credit card issuerer is more thin friendly? Also should I secure an auto loan or credit card first to minimize score impact. I know the various CK and EX simulators are not very good, but is it true my score could drop by 40pts for just getting a new CC?
Once this is done then I'm done and would go to the garden for next year or so.
Thanks in advance for any help, these forums are amazing!
In many cases there can be a short term dip, but since you have so few cards... I doubt it.. (or it will rebound in 6 months but your in a position you might actually GAIN points after they start reporting) Also you don't have the typical thin file (but you don't have the limits to compete but you have the long age to help you out here) ... Definitely think Discover esp if youd like a discover would be a good option, (discover doesn't have a SUB unless you get it through possibly Amazon or get a referral, but they have this nifty offer in addition to 0% for a year or more, plus double cashback (at the end of the year they give you the same amount of cashback than you earned during the year) So you get the conventional cashback during the year and it gets doubled on your anniversary. Also Amex would likely work for you as well...
Usually its considered a total of 3 credit cards is the "magic" number.. but id still think on what youd like. Do think the second one would best be suited by a Discover or Amex revolver.. but that third one.. Might want something with even tastier rewards. Esp if you have the pay in full mentality...
Good luck
-J
You can also go ahead and check Chase pre-quals.
As mentioned, old is going to offset thin. You're going to be approved for most products out there. The only cards I'd avoid right now are the ones that have a high minimum credit limit.
You could also try a credit card from your current bank that holds your checking and/or savings account. Since they will have a history with you they may be a great choice. Also it can make managing it easy since usually it can all be done from the same online portal. Just a thought. Good luck on your upcoming apps.
try to get prequalify Disco , Amex and Chase
@Anonymous wrote:
My question is which credit card issuerer is more thin friendly? Also should I secure an auto loan or credit card first to minimize score impact.
As somone mentioned, your credit history / age will make up for a thin file (unlike me, who has < 1 year history). Regarding, applying for a loan, if you are curious about your qualifications, you can go to CapitalOne Auto Navigator, enter your information, and see if you are prequalified for an auto loan. This will not affect your credit, as it uses a soft pull. I imagine you'll qualify, and then you can see what sort of rates they will offer. Of course, you can always search for better rates, but it's a risk free way to see what's available to you. When I was auto loan shopping, I was unable to get prequalified until I had two credit cards, but also had very little history and no previous loans. If you've had a mortgage, I think you should have no problems. When I finally prequalified with CapitalOne, I went to DCU and also applied for a loan through them (they approved me AND gave me a better interest rate) and I also got a credit card using the same hard pull. You could try something similar with your bank or credit union.
*If for whatever reason you don't get prequalified with CapitalOne Auto Navigator, there is a strong chance you'll have a hard time qualifying elsewhere. In that case, I would apply for a second credit card, and then wait a month and let it report before trying the prequal again to see if that helps (worked for me).
**Edited to Add: When I applied for my first two cards, there was a small dip in my scores, and they came back up within a month. When the third card hit my report, there was a rise in my scores, followed by a large dip when the auto loan and inquiries hit. It took about three months for that to start coming back up.**
Thanks everyone for the helpfull feedback so far!
I understand the small point dip for the HP when I CC app but it shouldn't be anything close to a 40pt drop or anything that I got on the EX simulator should it? Thinking if I Disco app today and then probably an auto loan in around 30-45 days once I settle on a vehicle, would that have the lowest point impact as to not affect my auto loan rate?
@Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone for the helpfull feedback so far!
I understand the small point dip for the HP when I CC app but it shouldn't be anything close to a 40pt drop or anything that I got on the EX simulator should it? Thinking if I Disco app today and then probably an auto loan in around 30-45 days once I settle on a vehicle, would that have the lowest point impact as to not affect my auto loan rate?
The HP will not cause a 40 point drop. It will probably be between 2-10 points. However, the new account will cause a significant drop. Probably not 40 but way more than just the inquiry.
A new account will:
But it will add to your credit mix. Oftentimes, one's second account will result in a net score increase. My best guess is that because your file is so thin, you'll offset some of the above losses but see a net decrease.
If you're talking a loan 30–45 days from now, I'd go straight for the loan. If it were six months out, I'd grab the card now.