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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: so I applied for the CSP

Sometimes it takes tough luv to help change people you want to see do better so here goes

This is a quote from your Discover declined Dillard Amex approved thread:

 

Creditwatcher 

It's time to hit the garden age your cards,INQ, AAoA and work on GW's for the lates.

That's a lot of lates and it is going to affect the way lenders look at your CR's

I'm just being honest and want to see you achieve all your goals 

CSP IMHO will not approve Chase is very picky when it comes to negatives and INQ's.......... of course YMMV

 

You have 21 lates and might I add from a major lender when looked at on manual review (Ford) but for some reason you continue to apply for more cards vs working on your CR's while gardening why?

 

Discover said no flat out 

Dillard gave you a 400 limit 

Now your taking cash advances to pay off a debt in hopes that another HP and more debt will get you approve!!!!!!! Again I ask why?

All these things add up to signs it's time to STOP NOW

Re-group and ask yourself what can I do differently for future success.

 

While this may seem harsh my hope is that it shocks you into the reality of what needs to be done to help yourself and is in no way an attack on you at all

Best wishes

 

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: so I applied for the CSP


@thelethargicage wrote:

This forum is obsessed with CSP!


*shrug* it's one of the better cards available when it comes to building one's goal set.  It's on my list even and I don't care at all how pretty a card is or that it's made of metal.

 

Out of all the cards on the market, speaking as a member, I'd rather members focus on good cards rather than lackluster ones.  Something will eventually supplant it, but it, and the Freedom, and Amex, and a couple other sacred cows on the forum are heavily discussed as most credit cards, and most lenders, are throughly average.  Neither Chase nor the Sapphire Preferred card fall into that category, and as such it merits more discussion compared to the call it other 98% of credit cards.




        
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missjae
Established Contributor

Re: so I applied for the CSP

OP, you got great advice. I used to app when I had a lot of high debt. I got tons of denials and kept going. Even if you get approved, the limit may be small. The only thing better than an approval is an approval with a high limit. I can see the difference between the approvals I've gotten now and a year ago....and I gardened for 9 months.

I paid my debt down and it's now scary to me to see high balances, even though I know I'm going to pay them right off. Banking on money you may get or plan on having isn't financially smart. Listen to the advice you got....if you don't want the advice, don't ask for it. Just my $0.02 cents.
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creditwatcher2012
Frequent Contributor

Re: so I applied for the CSP

I disagree to an extent, because the cash advance was only becasue I wanted the CSP and wanted to pay it off, the 0% balance transfer from NFCU ended so this was my best approach in my honest opinion, I can have this paid off soon, I just check my CS is a 686 TR MY FICO, I want to be clear that the cash advance was not becasue "I cant afford to pay my CC bill" it was a quick pay off!

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creditwatcher2012
Frequent Contributor

Re: so I applied for the CSP

Im listening to your advice-- I agree with Relevate, honestly the only reason (besides really wanting the card) is that I saw all the approvals in regards to the CSP, how about I wait and see tommorow if they approve it or not.  I dont see my self currently beingin debt that I cannot manage, but rather just wanting a credit card so badly> Has anoyone ever been in this situation, where you just really want a card and you justify every means possible to obtain that card/app? 

 

thx again... OP

Message 25 of 77
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: so I applied for the CSP


@creditwatcher2012 wrote:

I disagree to an extent, because the cash advance was only becasue I wanted the CSP and wanted to pay it off, the 0% balance transfer from NFCU ended so this was my best approach in my honest opinion, I can have this paid off soon, I just check my CS is a 686 TR MY FICO, I want to be clear that the cash advance was not becasue "I cant afford to pay my CC bill" it was a quick pay off!


Just say no to cash advances.

 

Every bank views cash advances supiciously.  Every.  Single.  One.  It is not a sign of stability, and it should be used as a last resort.

 

In addition to that, shuffling debt around from one card to another is not a sign of stability either, banks want to see progress over time paying down debt, as a general rule, and seeking more credit with a maxxed out credit line with the exception of applying for a balance transfer card, isn't going to much favor from underwriting.  Might have been approved for a Slate, but not for the CSP as described by others in my opinion.

 




        
Message 26 of 77
09Lexie
Moderator Emerita

Re: so I applied for the CSP

Not to pile on but did you ever correct the employment status -self employed on NFCU?
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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: so I applied for the CSP


@creditwatcher2012 wrote:

I disagree to an extent, because the cash advance was only becasue I wanted the CSP and wanted to pay it off, the 0% balance transfer from NFCU ended so this was my best approach in my honest opinion, I can have this paid off soon, I just check my CS is a 686 TR MY FICO, I want to be clear that the cash advance was not becasue "I cant afford to pay my CC bill" it was a quick pay off!


From a financial perspective, it was not a quick pay off (maybe from one account to another yes, but your CR still will reflect the balance somewhere else - NFCU) so all you did is shift debt from one card to another...and, with a cash advance balance, I can only wonder how much in fees & interest you would end up paying in the end.  So, the debt didn't really go *poof*...and now, you'll have an incremental balance.

 

I'm led to believe that you're not exactly in a good cash flow position to pay the $1,700 today (maybe in a two-month period?), or unless I'm missing something.

Message 28 of 77
youngandcreditwrthy
Senior Contributor

Re: so I applied for the CSP

Are you paying interest on the Chase balance?
Debt isn't so bad when it's at 0%.
It's when it's at 15-20+ APR that you need to cut it up and buckle down.
I've been there too.
In fact, even though I just got CSP, my BOA card was used for a BT and I cut it up. I will pif CSP as well as Amexes.
Everyone gets to this point, but please eliminate interest if you can. That's #1.
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creditwatcher2012
Frequent Contributor

Re: so I applied for the CSP

ok, I understand, I never ever missed a payment on any of my credit cards, I just like the thrill of getting a new approval, my overall utilizatiion is pretty low its not bad. hope you understand> 

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