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Sometimes it takes tough luv to help change people you want to see do better so here goes
This is a quote from your Discover declined Dillard Amex approved thread:
Creditwatcher
It's time to hit the garden age your cards,INQ, AAoA and work on GW's for the lates.
That's a lot of lates and it is going to affect the way lenders look at your CR's
I'm just being honest and want to see you achieve all your goals
CSP IMHO will not approve Chase is very picky when it comes to negatives and INQ's.......... of course YMMV
You have 21 lates and might I add from a major lender when looked at on manual review (Ford) but for some reason you continue to apply for more cards vs working on your CR's while gardening why?
Discover said no flat out
Dillard gave you a 400 limit
Now your taking cash advances to pay off a debt in hopes that another HP and more debt will get you approve!!!!!!! Again I ask why?
All these things add up to signs it's time to STOP NOW
Re-group and ask yourself what can I do differently for future success.
While this may seem harsh my hope is that it shocks you into the reality of what needs to be done to help yourself and is in no way an attack on you at all
Best wishes
@thelethargicage wrote:This forum is obsessed with CSP!
*shrug* it's one of the better cards available when it comes to building one's goal set. It's on my list even and I don't care at all how pretty a card is or that it's made of metal.
Out of all the cards on the market, speaking as a member, I'd rather members focus on good cards rather than lackluster ones. Something will eventually supplant it, but it, and the Freedom, and Amex, and a couple other sacred cows on the forum are heavily discussed as most credit cards, and most lenders, are throughly average. Neither Chase nor the Sapphire Preferred card fall into that category, and as such it merits more discussion compared to the call it other 98% of credit cards.
I disagree to an extent, because the cash advance was only becasue I wanted the CSP and wanted to pay it off, the 0% balance transfer from NFCU ended so this was my best approach in my honest opinion, I can have this paid off soon, I just check my CS is a 686 TR MY FICO, I want to be clear that the cash advance was not becasue "I cant afford to pay my CC bill" it was a quick pay off!
Im listening to your advice-- I agree with Relevate, honestly the only reason (besides really wanting the card) is that I saw all the approvals in regards to the CSP, how about I wait and see tommorow if they approve it or not. I dont see my self currently beingin debt that I cannot manage, but rather just wanting a credit card so badly> Has anoyone ever been in this situation, where you just really want a card and you justify every means possible to obtain that card/app?
thx again... OP
@creditwatcher2012 wrote:I disagree to an extent, because the cash advance was only becasue I wanted the CSP and wanted to pay it off, the 0% balance transfer from NFCU ended so this was my best approach in my honest opinion, I can have this paid off soon, I just check my CS is a 686 TR MY FICO, I want to be clear that the cash advance was not becasue "I cant afford to pay my CC bill" it was a quick pay off!
Just say no to cash advances.
Every bank views cash advances supiciously. Every. Single. One. It is not a sign of stability, and it should be used as a last resort.
In addition to that, shuffling debt around from one card to another is not a sign of stability either, banks want to see progress over time paying down debt, as a general rule, and seeking more credit with a maxxed out credit line with the exception of applying for a balance transfer card, isn't going to much favor from underwriting. Might have been approved for a Slate, but not for the CSP as described by others in my opinion.
@creditwatcher2012 wrote:I disagree to an extent, because the cash advance was only becasue I wanted the CSP and wanted to pay it off, the 0% balance transfer from NFCU ended so this was my best approach in my honest opinion, I can have this paid off soon, I just check my CS is a 686 TR MY FICO, I want to be clear that the cash advance was not becasue "I cant afford to pay my CC bill" it was a quick pay off!
From a financial perspective, it was not a quick pay off (maybe from one account to another yes, but your CR still will reflect the balance somewhere else - NFCU) so all you did is shift debt from one card to another...and, with a cash advance balance, I can only wonder how much in fees & interest you would end up paying in the end. So, the debt didn't really go *poof*...and now, you'll have an incremental balance.
I'm led to believe that you're not exactly in a good cash flow position to pay the $1,700 today (maybe in a two-month period?), or unless I'm missing something.
ok, I understand, I never ever missed a payment on any of my credit cards, I just like the thrill of getting a new approval, my overall utilizatiion is pretty low its not bad. hope you understand>