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Man vs. Debt: Life without credit cards

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Man vs. Debt: Life without credit cards

Adam Baker and his wife, Courtney, were thousands of dollars in debt when they decided to get radical about their finances. They sold the bulk of their belongings, cut up their credit cards, slashed their expenses, and hit the road.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/112812/adam-baker-qa-man-vs-debt-creditcards

 

 

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Anonymous
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I don't understand the rational for cutting up the last card. They seem like they had the self-control and it provides security a debit card will never -- protection of your checking account balance.

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haulingthescoreup
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IMO, it's all about drama.

 

Emotion + personal finance = eventually shooting self in foot...

* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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daylove
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You can live without CC...I lived without for long time I just had a Western Union Prepaid, which btw is the best card I have ever used...most guys who love CC are those who live beyond their means..I do have regular cards now but I prefer to pay with cash..and cash is still king. BTW, we do not need FICO scores either if you pay in cash nothing matter...

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MarineVietVet
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@daylove wrote:

You can live without CC...I lived without for long time I just had a Western Union Prepaid, which btw is the best card I have ever used...most guys who love CC are those who live beyond their means..I do have regular cards now but I prefer to pay with cash..and cash is still king. BTW, we do not need FICO scores either if you pay in cash nothing matter...


Cash is a very good thing  Smiley Happy but if you learn the proper use of CC's (which took me more decades than I care to admit) they can save and make you money.

 

I'll give a recent example. I paid for some dental work for my wife with my Discover card. I got a 2% discount for paying with a CC to begin with plus I got cash back on the transaction. In total I paid $150 less than what paying strictly cash would have been.

 

But admittedly you have to work out all the details ahead of time to make sure you don't make any mistakes that will cost you interest.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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haulingthescoreup
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@daylove wrote:

You can live without CC...I lived without for long time I just had a Western Union Prepaid, which btw is the best card I have ever used...most guys who love CC are those who live beyond their means..I do have regular cards now but I prefer to pay with cash..and cash is still king. BTW, we do not need FICO scores either if you pay in cash nothing matter...


Thumbs up to you for being able to buy a house with cash.  Smiley Wink

 

And I lived without CC's for a long time, too. But I greatly prefer CC's to cash, because I milk them for rewards, and I've used the consumer protections that they provide more than once, and I like the convenience of paying my bills all at the same time.

 

Which I do monthly, btw, and in full.  Smiley Happy

* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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@daylove wrote:

You can live without CC...I lived without for long time I just had a Western Union Prepaid, which btw is the best card I have ever used...most guys who love CC are those who live beyond their means..I do have regular cards now but I prefer to pay with cash..and cash is still king. BTW, we do not need FICO scores either if you pay in cash nothing matter...


I've lived with credit cards in a business (travel) and emergency 'only' fashion. I've live without credit cards. I've lived with credit cards while not understanding how to manage them. I've lived without credit cards again...

 

What I've learned over the years is that cash is awesome, but I much prefer to keep my cash safely in the bank, and earning interest (however nominal that might be these days). I like the consumer purchase protection that credit cards afford me, and zero liability if my cards are lost or stolen. If my cash is lost or stolen, I'm just out of luck. I love that I have irrefutable documentation of payment to my creditors in the form of credit card statements. I don't have to wait for the check to arrive in the mail, and hope that a clerk doesn't misplace it. And I love, love, love free $$$ in the form of cashback and rewards. I PIF every month, but I run just about every living expense that my family has through a credit card. I don't pay interest, I just collect the freebies. Unfortunately, cash doesn't let me do that.

 

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vanillabean
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I read about debt and self-esteem the other day. Some get a boost from more spending; it's like power and control have been restored, so you feel better. To others, there's nothing quite like being debt-free, which is useful to experience at times.

If then for the fun of it you google self-esteem and something like gossip, one finds that people with high of the former feel little need to do any of the latter, which underlines that spending money can be like a self-esteem addiction.

This ties in with the article's Adam Baker saying that credit cards "actually encourage us to live a lifestyle that is not in line with where we want to be." While I don't have any debt to catapult me into overreacting, he's essentially right.

I'll keep the cards that I have, including a recent second Amex. The consumer protections are necessary. I certainly enjoy the rewards too, but the catch is the direct correlation between spending and the cashback/points. Smiley Surprised

 

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Anonymous
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I lived without a credit card for 10 years and have only recently gotten one because I need a credit score for security clearances.  I really didnt have any problems paying for everything with cash and really hate that I have to have a credit card to rent a car or have a security clearance.  Its actually pretty easy to pay with cash all the time, but you have to know how to save.

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llecs
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@Anonymous wrote:

I lived without a credit card for 10 years and have only recently gotten one because I need a credit score for security clearances.  I really didnt have any problems paying for everything with cash and really hate that I have to have a credit card to rent a car or have a security clearance.  Its actually pretty easy to pay with cash all the time, but you have to know how to save.


Ditto. Other than 2 car loans, DW and I went cash only for over 7 years. No issues at all with hotels, car rentals (except a couple like Avis), etc. I actually preferred paying cash. Now at the time we didn't know how FICO scoring worked and that having open accounts were very important, but now that we got out home we are thinking of going back to cash-only for a while.

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