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So my sister is in a rough spot credit score wise. She was out fo work and has a ton of lates/collections (the collections are all paid, but they did not offer 'pay for deletion' so still on her report showing paid).
She has 3 credit cards maxed out
Amazon 4000/4000
AMEX 10000/12000
walmart 5500/6000
She was paying minimums + monthly interest + 100-200 extra whatever she can afford to.
She owns her home and was never late on it.
She owns her car
She wants to get a new credit card with no interest BT offer or a HELOC but her credit isnt good enough to get either.
I Have like 80,000 worth of credit cards with 0 balance and 100% on-time i can add her as an AU for. that would take her overall utilization from 100% to 20% but i dont think it works the same as an AU.
how much would this realistically help her scores?
Would this negatively impact me (She woudlnt have a card or spend, its just for maniupulation)
Adding her as an AU won't hurt you.
However, with 2 cards reporting at over 90% utilization (i.e. considered maxed out) and 1 between 80-90%, adding her as an AU probably wouldn't do an awful lot to improve her scores or odds of obtaining a loan (either personal or CC) either, at least in the short term.
No much, if at all. Best advice... pay more than the minimum.







That's probably not going to fix anything. Even with an AU, and even if she pays down those absurdly large balances, her credit's going to be garbage for a long while because of all those lates and collections. Rebuilding is a slow process.
But in the short term, she needs to get those balances off those credit cards. On top of the high interest, she might be balanced chased, with CLDs and cards being closed. Since she owns her own house and car, she has collateral for a HELOC, or a secured loan against her car. If she's having difficulties, try a local credit union. They tend to be a lot friendlier to people in trouble. Just don't do it foolishly... if she defaults, she could lose the secured asset.
I'll go medical on you. You have a rather large laceration that needs sutures. But you place a bandaid on it instead. Little time passes and the wound is still open with that bandaid and still isnt healing. You finally go to a Urgent Care center and get sutures to close the wound so it can heal. Adding AU wont fix whats still in need of care. Need to find a way to increase income or go on a strict budget and cut out all the non essential monthly spending. Get the cards util down far enough to get a debt consolidation loan or HELOC approval. Just passing 89% or even better 69% aggregate util and it would help score wise to get an approval. Good luck!
While were at it. You mentioned you have $0 balance on all your cards. Your losing points for not having any accounts report a balance. 15-20 pts avg. Have 1 report $50 and PIF each month. Rinse and repeat.
@FireMedic1 wrote:I'll go medical on you. You have a rather large laceration that needs sutures. But you place a bandaid on it instead. Little time passes and the wound is still open with that bandaid and still isnt healing. You finally go to a Urgent Care center and get sutures to close the wound so it can heal. Adding AU wont fix whats still in need of care. <snip>
While were at it. You mentioned you have $0 balance on all your cards. Your losing points for not having any accounts report a balance. 15-20 pts avg. Have 1 report $50 and PIF each month. Rinse and repeat.
I like that analogy - AU isn't going to address the issue, it's going to come down to paying down that debt at least part of the way, and letting the lates and collections age.
As far as the $0 balance on all cards, as long as your credit scores are in a happy place and you're not planning to apply for anything, is there really a compelling reason to bother? I don't worry about that at all, sometimes all my cards report balances, sometimes none of them do. My score might waver a little, but as long as it's in a happy place I'm not going to stress trying to do AZEO
@disdreamin wrote:
@FireMedic1 wrote:I'll go medical on you. You have a rather large laceration that needs sutures. But you place a bandaid on it instead. Little time passes and the wound is still open with that bandaid and still isnt healing. You finally go to a Urgent Care center and get sutures to close the wound so it can heal. Adding AU wont fix whats still in need of care. <snip>
While were at it. You mentioned you have $0 balance on all your cards. Your losing points for not having any accounts report a balance. 15-20 pts avg. Have 1 report $50 and PIF each month. Rinse and repeat.
I like that analogy - AU isn't going to address the issue, it's going to come down to paying down that debt at least part of the way, and letting the lates and collections age.
As far as the $0 balance on all cards, as long as your credit scores are in a happy place and you're not planning to apply for anything, is there really a compelling reason to bother? I don't worry about that at all, sometimes all my cards report balances, sometimes none of them do. My score might waver a little, but as long as it's in a happy place I'm not going to stress trying to do AZEO
AZEO is 50/50. Some live by it like me since I started over 6 yrs ago. Some dont. Different strokes for different folks. The majority like having higher scores and thats why I said what I did. Some are happy where they're at like yourself and dont practice it. The majority here want higher scores, better cards, more perks, and whats best for them to move on up the credit ladder. Thats my posting style. I cant get to the nozzle on top of the ladder truck unless I climb to get to it. I just help people get there. If I stop half way. The job wont get done.
@FireMedic1 wrote:
@disdreamin wrote:
As far as the $0 balance on all cards, as long as your credit scores are in a happy place and you're not planning to apply for anything, is there really a compelling reason to bother? I don't worry about that at all, sometimes all my cards report balances, sometimes none of them do. My score might waver a little, but as long as it's in a happy place I'm not going to stress trying to do AZEOAZEO is 50/50. Some live by it like me since I started over 6 yrs ago. Some dont. Different strokes for different folks. The majority like having higher scores and thats why I said what I did. Some are happy where they're at like yourself and dont practice it. The majority here want higher scores, better cards, more perks, and whats best for them to move on up the credit ladder. Thats my posting style. I cant get to the nozzle on top of the ladder truck unless I climb to get to it. I just help people get there. If I stop half way. The job wont get done.
Understood, that's why I mentioned scores being in a happy place a couple times. My FICO 8's are all >800 without putting any effort into AZEO, and I have yet to be denied for a loan or cc I wanted due to my credit scores, so I'm okay with not putting effort into optimizing. If my scores were different and I wanted them higher, I'd 100% jump on the AZEO opportunity.
@Anonymous wrote:
Would this negatively impact me (She woudlnt have a card or spend, its just for maniupulation)
Others have already given you some great advice, so I'll just address this ^^.
It's my understanding that banks don't like AU accounts that don't actually get used. In other words, they're on to the 'manipulation' tactic and don't like it.
If you don't want your sister actually using the account, you could still go ahead and add her as an AU--which will trigger having a card sent in her name. Take that card and use it occasionally. They won't know you're the one using it, they'll just see charges on the AU card and be happy.
Kindly note that I've never actually *done* this, so my thinking is hypothetical. Maybe someone with actual knowledge about it will say differently!












