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Authorized User Question???

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Authorized User Question???

I had a question regarding being an authorized user on my grandfathers account. I had him add me back when being an authorized user was beneficial to one's credit. My account now shows as being an authorized user (due to the changes) so I am curious as to how much this actually benefits or hinders me. My grandfather knows little about credit and always has 50% and above utilization on this account. The account was opened in 1986 with perfect payment history and has an $8,000 limit. My question is this, since this account always carries a balance of $5,000 a month+ is it actually beneficial for me to be on there? Does his utilization hurt me more than help me? With this account on my credit the only benefit I see is the age of my average account ranges for 3.5 to 6 yrs depending on the credit bureau. Without him it would be a 1 yr to a yr and a half. Any thoughts? Please only comment if you have knowledge about the situation, I'm not interested in guesses. Thanks in advance

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namvet
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Re: Authorized User Question???

IMO the 50% util is too high to help you. 

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Anonymous
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You can actually figure out the utilization by taking it out of the equation and seeing what it drops/raises to.  50% is too high.  For optimum scoring it should be at 9% or less.

 

You could lose points also if you removed yourself due to AAoA.  Going from 6 years to a year would be a significant drop.

 

 

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Anonymous
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Well using equifax my score would go up 35 pts without his utilization. However that doesn't factor in the average age of account dropping. My average would fall from 4 yrs to 1-2 yrs. How much that would affect my score would be the determining factor. I'm thinking it wouldn't be a 35 pt drop though. What do you guys think?
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Anonymous
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Re: Authorized User Question???

These things are considered in length of credit history which counts toward 15% of your score:

 

Time since accounts opened

Time since accounts opened, by specific type of account

Time since account activity

 

It is really hard to predict.  You can remove yourself, wait and see what it does to your score.  If it drops too much, you can always be put back on.

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RobertEG
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Percent util encompasses not only the affect on overall % util, which in this case is significant, but also individual acct % util, as well as % of cards reporting a balance.

 

The AU account, being sigificantly higher % util than your other accounts, is also hurting your individ cards util scoring.  Plus, since it always carries a balance, it will always hurt your % cards with balance.  Revolv % util is part of a 30% scoring category, rated much higher than age of accounts.  While the util of one card does not make up the entire 30%, it is most likely at least on a par with the AAoA effect.  AAoA is not the entire 15% of age of credit.  YOur oldest TL is also a part of that mix.

 

You have no control over what the primary card holder may do in the future, so it is always a risk to be an AU.

I would also consider the intangibles. Creditor manual review of your CR.  When they see an AU account, they know that it does not represent your own, personal evaluation of credit risk.  Having no way to calculate a FICO score based only on your credit history, should they desire to do so, might  put into question the enntire value to them of your FICO score.

The system may enable the credit history of others to be included in a consumer's scoring, but that does not necessarily mean that creditors will give it full credence in evaluating your credit risk.  There have been prior attempts to remove all AU accounts from credit scoring based on such concerns.

 

I would drop it.

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Anonymous
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Awesome answer. Thank you for your help. You solidified what I have thought.
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