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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!


@FalconSteve wrote:

FICO scoring still has a memory with some scores. Also, that change was due to be implemented years ago... why would I expect that they actually followed through, instead of leaving it up to the banks to decide if they're going to pro-actively start using trending scores... talk about stupid on my part.


When you wrote, "FICO scoring still has a memory with some scores."  Can you be more specific; I have seen no evidence of this anywhere.

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
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FalconSteve
Valued Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!

https://www.lendingclub.com/resource-center/personal-finance/fico-score-update-heres-what-you-need-t...

1/8/17 Discover $18300 CL- $1k SL- AU, wife
1/26/20 AmEx Cash Magnet $35k CL, wife
2/19/20 BB&T/Truist Rewards $11k SL- impulse application
2/22/20 Citi Double Cash WEMC $2.9k-->$4.4k-->$8.4k-->$13.4k-->$17.4k-->$19.4k-->$22.4k-->27.4k AU, wife
3/8/20 Wells Fargo Propel AmEx/Autograph VISA $2900-->$3200-->$5000-->$8800-->$13k-->$15.5k CL- AU, wife
3/9/20 Truist Rewards $11k SL --> $13.5k- AU, wife- impulse app
3/21/20 REDcard MasterCard (TD Bank) $2500-->$6000-->$6500 CL
11/24/20 AmEx Cash Magnet $10k SL-->36hr-->$20k-->$35k CL
6/10/21 SoFi World Elite MC $7000 SL
1/19/22 AppleCard/GS $6k-->$10k-->$11k-->$12k AU, wife
8/15/22 Chase freedom flex $10.3k SL-->$12.5k-->$15k-->$19k AU, wife
7/5/23 Lowes/Synchrony $4k-->$10k-->same day-->$35k CL
8/2/23 Chase freedom flex $19k --> $22.8k-->24.3k CL
8/2/23 Discover $8k SL
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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!


@FalconSteve wrote:

https://www.lendingclub.com/resource-center/personal-finance/fico-score-update-heres-what-you-need-t...


Why did you even bother posting that?  All it did was confirm what several of us have said above, the only FICO score which trends is 10T.  Now, if you think there are other FICO scores which trend, please, school us.

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
Message 33 of 42
FalconSteve
Valued Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!


@Horseshoez wrote:

@FalconSteve wrote:

https://www.lendingclub.com/resource-center/personal-finance/fico-score-update-heres-what-you-need-t...


Why did you even bother posting that?  All it did was confirm what several of us have said above, the only FICO score which trends is 10T.  Now, if you think there are other FICO scores which trend, please, school us.


It's called evidence. Why are you being so hostile?

1/8/17 Discover $18300 CL- $1k SL- AU, wife
1/26/20 AmEx Cash Magnet $35k CL, wife
2/19/20 BB&T/Truist Rewards $11k SL- impulse application
2/22/20 Citi Double Cash WEMC $2.9k-->$4.4k-->$8.4k-->$13.4k-->$17.4k-->$19.4k-->$22.4k-->27.4k AU, wife
3/8/20 Wells Fargo Propel AmEx/Autograph VISA $2900-->$3200-->$5000-->$8800-->$13k-->$15.5k CL- AU, wife
3/9/20 Truist Rewards $11k SL --> $13.5k- AU, wife- impulse app
3/21/20 REDcard MasterCard (TD Bank) $2500-->$6000-->$6500 CL
11/24/20 AmEx Cash Magnet $10k SL-->36hr-->$20k-->$35k CL
6/10/21 SoFi World Elite MC $7000 SL
1/19/22 AppleCard/GS $6k-->$10k-->$11k-->$12k AU, wife
8/15/22 Chase freedom flex $10.3k SL-->$12.5k-->$15k-->$19k AU, wife
7/5/23 Lowes/Synchrony $4k-->$10k-->same day-->$35k CL
8/2/23 Chase freedom flex $19k --> $22.8k-->24.3k CL
8/2/23 Discover $8k SL
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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!


@FalconSteve wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@FalconSteve wrote:

https://www.lendingclub.com/resource-center/personal-finance/fico-score-update-heres-what-you-need-t...


Why did you even bother posting that?  All it did was confirm what several of us have said above, the only FICO score which trends is 10T.  Now, if you think there are other FICO scores which trend, please, school us.


It's called evidence. Why are you being so hostile?


Evidence of what?  That my statements on the subject were correct and that you incorrectly call me out for stating something untrue?  Yes, it does that.

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
Message 35 of 42
Anonymalous
Valued Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!


@FalconSteve wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@FalconSteve wrote:

https://www.lendingclub.com/resource-center/personal-finance/fico-score-update-heres-what-you-need-t...


Why did you even bother posting that?  All it did was confirm what several of us have said above, the only FICO score which trends is 10T.  Now, if you think there are other FICO scores which trend, please, school us.


It's called evidence. Why are you being so hostile?


It's evidence against your position. It's not hostile for@Horseshoez to point out the disconnect between what you're claiming and what the article you linked to says.

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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!


@Anonymalous wrote:

@FalconSteve wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@FalconSteve wrote:

https://www.lendingclub.com/resource-center/personal-finance/fico-score-update-heres-what-you-need-t...


Why did you even bother posting that?  All it did was confirm what several of us have said above, the only FICO score which trends is 10T.  Now, if you think there are other FICO scores which trend, please, school us.


It's called evidence. Why are you being so hostile?


It's evidence against your position. It's not hostile for@Horseshoez to point out the disconnect between what you're claiming and what the article you linked to says.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have clearly stated the only FICO score which trends is 10T, and that is what the link states as well.  How does that constitute evidence against my position?

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
Message 37 of 42
Anonymalous
Valued Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!

@Horseshoez, I was replying to @FalconSteve, not you.

Message 38 of 42
Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!


@Anonymalous wrote:

@Horseshoez, I was replying to @FalconSteve, not you.


Ahhh, sorry, my bad.

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
Message 39 of 42
Anonymalous
Valued Contributor

Re: Azeo emergency!

Just to summarize what we know, because I think it's been obscured a bit:

 

The only credit scores that support trending data are FICO 10T and VantageScore 4.0. When these come into widespread use, the old adage that "utilization has no memory" will no longer be true. But while FICO 10T and VS 4.0 have been approved to become the new mortgage scores, that's at least 2 years out. And since most credit card lenders haven't even moved to FICO 9, widespread adoption of trended scores in the credit card industry will likely take even longer. The only exception I'm aware of at the moment is Synchrony, who provide access to VS 4.0 for their cardholders, and may use it in lending decisions.

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