cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

tag
corkyduckfan
New Contributor

Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

Anyone that know the answer, I would certainly appreciate it.  When we first heard about the new FICO models, I remember some contributors and moderators mention some of the differences.  I am going off of memory here.  I seem to remember differences in piggybacking not being allowed and that old baddies that are close to falling off that are paid not hurting your score as much on the new model.  Somebody please tell me if I am remembering correctly.

Message 1 of 9
8 REPLIES 8
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

I think that's correct. AUs are excluded if not in relations. IIRC, unpaid CAs of under $100 are excluded too. There also seems to be an update as to how individual vs. trending strings of lates are treated.

Message 2 of 9
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

If you're referring to the NextGen FICO model, remember that it is not yet widely used - as traditional FICO models are.

 

That being said, you can see some significant differences in the reason codes for FICO NextGen here.  They're compared side-by-side to the reason codes for Classic FICOs.  If it's not overwhelming, it's pretty interesting.  Smiley Wink

Message 3 of 9
AndySoCal
Senior Contributor

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

The FICO08 product fact sheet refers to a single collection account being over looked if under a $100 it is not plural. But on the other hand also the score is a little harsher on mutiple lates or serious delinquences from what I have read.

FIC Scores XPN v8 805 V2 831 (SDFCU) TUC V 8 800 07/25 EFX Bankcard v8 822 EFX FIC0 v8 807 Vantage score 4.0 817 via JC Penney
JC Penney 10/2008 4,700 US Bank Cash 08/2010 12,000 Citibank Custom Cash 5/2015 14,100, State Dept. FCU 06/2023 25,000 02/2024 Redstone FCU Signature VISA 10,000 08/23/2024 Commonwealth Credit Union 15000 07/25 Walmart One 5000 12/04/25
Banking: Lafayette FCU Fortera FCU State Department FCU Redstone FCU Hughes FCU Commonwealth FCU
My personal blacklist Axos Bank, Bank of America, Synchrony Bank Capital One TD Bank Comerica Bank BMO US Bank Wells Fargo
Message 4 of 9
corkyduckfan
New Contributor

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

Interesting.  On the new model, I hope that they don't freak out over old charge offs and paid lates. I have had nothing derogatory in 5.5 to 6 years.  I have a few things that will fall off in the next year or so.  I have nothing unpaid though.

Message 5 of 9
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

 


@llecs wrote:

I think that's correct. AUs are excluded if not in relations.


By this, do you mean related to the primary card holder?

 

Message 6 of 9
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO

 


@Anonymous wrote:

 


@llecs wrote:

I think that's correct. AUs are excluded if not in relations.


By this, do you mean related to the primary card holder?

 


Right. I think somehow, someway, FICO was able to exclude AUs that aren't related to eliminate piggybacking.

 

Message 7 of 9
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO



@llecs wrote:

 


Right. I think somehow, someway, FICO was able to exclude AUs that aren't related to eliminate piggybacking.

 


 

Got ya, thank you for your quick response.

 

Greatly Appreciated!

Message 8 of 9
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Basic question about new FICO vs. old FICO


@llecs wrote:

 


@Anonymous wrote:

 


@llecs wrote:

I think that's correct. AUs are excluded if not in relations.


By this, do you mean related to the primary card holder?

 


Right. I think somehow, someway, FICO was able to exclude AUs that aren't related to eliminate piggybacking.

 


Scratch that....I was wrong. All AUs, even if not in relation, are factored in someway and somehow into FICO scoring.

Message 9 of 9
Advertiser Disclosure: The offers that appear on this site are from third party advertisers from whom FICO receives compensation.