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DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau

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Anonymous
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau

and in regards to utility style bills, length of accounts does play a role... but lets say you have been living at a location for 6 years with no late payments or you have had a cellphone with Sprint for 8 years, the length of accounts in good standing would definitely be a benefit to a lenders decision even if you were to move or switch cellphone providers. The new accounts might sting for a second but any lender could easily see that your history is well taken care of.

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llecs
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau

I can see a scenario where an old utility, let's say 10 years old with a perfect on-time history could help if your AAoA is under 10 years (AAoA is big scoring component and is the avg. age of all of your good, bad, opened, or closed OC accounts like CCs, loans, etc.). A 30% balance on Dell would be score damaging for many on here because the util is too high, but an old, paid off Dell that still reports as opened and is active would help most.

 

But should the government mandate that these traditionally non-reporting account report? And how far would it go? Cell phones? Utilities? Rent? If I loan money to someone, should that report too? How far is too far? There's an added cost for these items to report. The consumer would have to pay for it as a cost to do business by the one reporting. Would you mind paying extra to have an account like this report? Certainly a YMMV answer if others were polled on here. Also, when it reports, it would report on a fixed schedule on the statement date. When it reports, it would report with a balance because the balance is generated when the statement cuts. In FICO-speak, that's not a good thing because you are adding an account with a balance and you can incur a score hit (assuming FICO would to score it fully). Would it be worth it to PIF 30 days prior to the next due date to avoid a balance on the statement?

 

FWIW, I think Dell reports. Or maybe I should mention that they did report. They reported my biz account on DnB and Experian biz. I know they went through some issues with CIT. But if your Dell reports, they report an Open Date. FICO ignores the on-time payments, but will take that open date into consideration for your history which can help or hurt you depending on the age of the Dell account in relation to your AAoA. Of course any negative history would likely offset much or even more than that length of history. Depends on what reports and how it reports. So even if Dell showed a positive history from years back, you wouldn't see any score improvement. In the eyes of lenders, they too would zero in on the baddies vs. looking at the positive years. And some utilities do report. IIRC, one of the Edison utilities out there reports monthly. PG&E, I think, reports monthly (or somewhere out there). And some rental agencies report monthly now to EX via their program.

 

Message 12 of 20
beb86
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau

i think your missing the point a bit.....bills like rent, utilities, daycare, cellphone, etc, are payments for a service or a good whereas credit is some enity extending credit to you with the promise of repayment. if your bills are not paid and go into collections this is where it enters the realm of credit. creditors can look at your risk, history, and income before issuing anytype of credit, product, or service and if you are considered a risk this will require a down payment.

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Anonymous
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau

My Dell account seems to be reported fine... waiting for one last payment to pay it off and probably wont use it anymore due to the 30% apr anyways

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Anonymous
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau


@Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough,

 

Lets say you have an account with Dell and a credit limit of $15,000 and maintain a 30% balance... this helps your credit score and can lead to better interest rates on car insurance, home ownership, car purchases.

 

But if these companies are allowed to only report when you have a negative item, they are essentially not doing anything to help you establish credit and should not be allowed to only destroy your credit.



Another way to look at this is that you are more-or-less allowed to keep a high util without it affecting your credit score.

 

Also, DFN wouldn't be the one "destroying" your credit; YOU would be the one responsible for destroying your credit.  You should be paying on time because it's the right thing to do, not because you want to prevent your credit score from going down. 

Message 15 of 20
Anonymous
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau


@beb86 wrote:

i think your missing the point a bit.....bills like rent, utilities, daycare, cellphone, etc, are payments for a service or a good whereas credit is some enity extending credit to you with the promise of repayment. if your bills are not paid and go into collections this is where it enters the realm of credit. creditors can look at your risk, history, and income before issuing anytype of credit, product, or service and if you are considered a risk this will require a down payment.


 

 

Actually, I think you're (not your.  pet peeve, sorry) missing the point.  Many monthly bills are exactly the same as a credit card.  Your utility company, cell-phone company, etc offer you services with understanding that you will pay them each month.  The same is true for renting/leasing.  What happens when you pay a credit card late?  The same thing that happens when you pay any other bill late -- a late fee and possibly interest.  What happens when you don't pay your credit card for several months?  The CCC will likely close your account.  What happens when you don't pay rent for several months?  You get evicted.

 

Just because utility, phone, and leasing companies aren't extending monetary credit to you, they are letting you use their services/property. 

 

 

Message 16 of 20
Booner72
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau


@Anonymous wrote:

I have an installment account with DELL for 2 years and all my payments on this account are perfect. Unfortunately DELL told me today they do not report accounts in good standing, only negatives ... WOW!

 

Is a company legally allowed to do this?

 

on a side note...

 

I called DELL yesterday the good folks over in India told me I could get my account reported to my Credit Bureau no problem, she even went as far as saying it would take me 35 - 45 days.

 

Its really insteresting how today I spoke to a DELL call-center in the Philipines and was told my account wont be reported, while yesterday i was connected to a DELL call-center in India and was told a completely oposite story.

 

,..


How frustrating. 

 

I'd like to let you know I LOVE DELL.  Wanna know why?  They are reporting an account that I have NO MEMORY of ever applying for in 2007.  I allegedly had an account w/ a 1500 limit and I apparently "paid as agreed", though it was eventually  "Closed by credit grantor" in 2009.  There were never any charges (which is probably why they closed me out).  This is a clear and total fraudulant tradeline.  Neither myself OR DH ever used this.  I'm going to enjoy watching it age nicely along til 2019. 

 

Whatever, Dell.  Thanks for helping my credit score!  And thanks for NOT helping liberty 603, who, we all know, IS a real and true Dell customer!  That's a great way to run your business and get good word of mouth business.

STARTING: 11/24/10 EQ-584 EXP-648 TU04-595
CLOSED FIRST HOME 8/19/11 EQ-630 EXP-691 TU04-653
CURRENT: EQ-701 EXP-??? TU08-720
Message 17 of 20
Booner72
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough,

 

Lets say you have an account with Dell and a credit limit of $15,000 and maintain a 30% balance... this helps your credit score and can lead to better interest rates on car insurance, home ownership, car purchases.

 

But if these companies are allowed to only report when you have a negative item, they are essentially not doing anything to help you establish credit and should not be allowed to only destroy your credit.



Another way to look at this is that you are more-or-less allowed to keep a high util without it affecting your credit score.

 

Also, DFN wouldn't be the one "destroying" your credit; YOU would be the one responsible for destroying your credit.  You should be paying on time because it's the right thing to do, not because you want to prevent your credit score from going down. 


Didn't we all destroy our credit?  Well, most of us.  Isn't that why we have this forum?  It's so nice to come here to get help and feedback and support.  I know I screwed up my credit, but I don't really want anyone here to make me feel bad about it.

 

STARTING: 11/24/10 EQ-584 EXP-648 TU04-595
CLOSED FIRST HOME 8/19/11 EQ-630 EXP-691 TU04-653
CURRENT: EQ-701 EXP-??? TU08-720
Message 18 of 20
casmith1980
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau


Didn't we all destroy our credit?  Well, most of us.  Isn't that why we have this forum?  It's so nice to come here to get help and feedback and support.  I know I screwed up my credit, but I don't really want anyone here to make me feel bad about it.

 


I know that's why I'm here Smiley Happy

 

It's called learning from your mistakes...and I definitely have suceeded in that department!

Filed BK 12/5/14
341 meeting 1/9/15
Anticipated discharge 3/10/15

Goal: 700 by 3/2017
Message 19 of 20
Anonymous
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Re: DELL Refuses to report to Credit Bureau


@Booner72 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Fair enough,

 

Lets say you have an account with Dell and a credit limit of $15,000 and maintain a 30% balance... this helps your credit score and can lead to better interest rates on car insurance, home ownership, car purchases.

 

But if these companies are allowed to only report when you have a negative item, they are essentially not doing anything to help you establish credit and should not be allowed to only destroy your credit.



Another way to look at this is that you are more-or-less allowed to keep a high util without it affecting your credit score.

 

Also, DFN wouldn't be the one "destroying" your credit; YOU would be the one responsible for destroying your credit.  You should be paying on time because it's the right thing to do, not because you want to prevent your credit score from going down. 


Didn't we all destroy our credit?  Well, most of us.  Isn't that why we have this forum?  It's so nice to come here to get help and feedback and support.  I know I screwed up my credit, but I don't really want anyone here to make me feel bad about it.

 


 

 

The point I was trying to make was that we are responsible for our own credit.  The fact that Dell and other companies will only report negatives does not make them responsible for destroying OUR credit.

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