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Hello out there. Looking for some guidance for this scenario. I recently traded my vehicle in at a dealership, and to make a long store short, they didn't complete the payoff process before my previous vehicle loan became 30 days past due. The dealer got the 10 day payoff 15 days before the 30 day mark, and I COMPLETED the deal 3 days later, leaving 12 days before it would be reported 30 days late. It wasn't until I received an alert a couple of weeks later that not only was the previous loan closed, but that it was reported 30 days late, because the dealer didn't complete the payoff process for almost 2 weeks! I know, I know, I should've made one more payment, and just gotten reimbursed for any overpayment, but I didn't because I just had confidence that 12 days would be plenty of time for the dealership to do their job. And, honestly, I just didn't give it much thought. So my question is this: can I dispute this with the credit bureau? I've already tried to get the previous lender (BBVA Compass) to forgive or delete the reporting, seeing as it could have been misconstrued as a technicality, but no dice. However, the Dispute Resolution manager there told me that she's seen success with disputing with the bureaus themselves in these scenarios. As far as I'm concerned, when I left that dealership the deal was done, and the old loan was satisfied, and that appears to be the postion that others have successfully taken when disputing these scenarios. Does this have merit? Should I start the dispute process with the bureaus and provide all data on when my new deal was completed? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for being so long winded. Thanks.
Hi and welcome
I don't think dispute will get you anywhere because it's a legitimate 30 day late.
The way it works is you keep paying (regardless of overpayment) till the process is completed. While unfortunate, "I had confidence" isn't grounds for dispute.
If there was a clause that stated "Dealership must complete process in X amount of days", you'd have a chance, but there is no such clause.
What you should try is goodwill removal, but make sure you indicate to the lender you aren't disputing but instead asking for removal due to circumstances surrounding late payment.
A dispute that comes back without resolution in your favor will hurt your score.
Thanks for your prompt response! However, "I had confidence," would definitely NOT be my grounds for dispute. Per the Dispute Resolution Manager I spoke with for the outgoing lienholder, the grounds for dispute would be based on what essentially could be construed as "dealer error." She stated that she's seen success with this procedure, and it made sense as she explained the details of said dispute. But, again, that's why I wanted to get a second opinion. As I was also told that a Letter of Forgiveness would be a viable option as well. Just trying to take the best shot to get this remedied. Thanks, again!
While I have no first hand knowledge of this bank, I'm surprised that they dismissed your request so quickly... it would be clear the the dealership did in fact request a 10 day payoff amount and they did in fact receive the payoff from this dealership shortly after. It would be evident from this timeline that you sold this vehicle on or before it would have been 30 days past due... this should have easily been a good will adjustment.
But I have to agree that I believe you have no grounds for dispute -- regardless of the reason the payment was in fact late.
Correct.
@Anonymous wrote:Correct.
sorry -- when i re read my own origianl post... i realized what i was thinking was incorrect anyway. ![]()
Haha! No worries. I did ramble on quite a bit...But:
"While I have no first hand knowledge of this bank, I'm surprised that they dismissed your request so quickly... it would be clear the the dealership did in fact request a 10 day payoff amount and they did in fact receive the payoff from this dealership shortly after. It would be evident from this timeline that you sold this vehicle on or before it would have been 30 days past due... this should have easily been a good will adjustment."
^^^This!! Should I try the Forgiveness Letter citing these EXACT circumstances?
@Anonymous wrote:Haha! No worries. I did ramble on quite a bit...But:
"While I have no first hand knowledge of this bank, I'm surprised that they dismissed your request so quickly... it would be clear the the dealership did in fact request a 10 day payoff amount and they did in fact receive the payoff from this dealership shortly after. It would be evident from this timeline that you sold this vehicle on or before it would have been 30 days past due... this should have easily been a good will adjustment."
^^^This!! Should I try the Forgiveness Letter citing these EXACT circumstances?
Oh I would.. I would be writing, e-mailing, and calling anyone I could find... you have nothing to lose at this point as far I can tell.... do you happen to bank with them?
Yea I don't see ground for dispute, but definitely try a GW (Goodwill, or I guess "forgiveness" as they introduced it to you) letter.