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@Creditplz wrote:Yeah, now his CR has a statement that says "contact consumer at xxxxxxxxx before any request for credit is open" he has a bunch of inquiries from all over, Discover x4, AMEX, Chase, WF, Barclays, Synchrony like 18 times. (he is the type of person to be out of touch with credit and still believes you hurt your credit when you look at it) I think after this experience he might close everything and lock it in fear of being robbed again.
He could take US Bank to court or something and that's what I told him but he said he doesn't have money for a court battle (lives pretty tight). I told him I'll help him figure it out, he's called the officer that took his report like 6 times already and only answered once that it's in their database and if more pop up they'll look at making a "case". Not sure how his local PD can let him get robbed like this without a care in the world but, sure...
he is waiting for the papers requested (all documents pertaining to the opening and servicing of the account) hopefully they have some kind of ID or something.
I just feel bad, the poor guy can't sleep over this.. not sure I would be able to either though.
I feel sorry for him too. Your cousin should tell US bank , he will go to local media and report it.
the last thing the bank will want is publicity .
The foundation of all these fraud problem is these politicians and law enforcement.
you will think after these colonial pipeline hacking, they will take these frauds more seriously and start legislating laws with stiff penalities.
we are all at the mercy of these fraudsters, even with all our due diligence, we can still fall prey, and nobody is doing anything about it
That's actually a great idea! But who do we contact and how? How do we let US Bank know we will go to media unless they take all material facts into account?.
He paid for Experian to check all 3 scores, and US Bank keeps changing the notes on his CR, it was;
Charged off as bad debt
Account information disputed by consumer, meets FCRA requirements
and now it's;
Charged off as bad debt
Canceled by credit grantor
@SoCalGardener wrote:
@Creditplz wrote:My cousin got a AA report from BofA saying they closed his card due to a review on his CR, he checked his CR since they had his score in 604 (was 730+ prior as he said).
it shows "US Bank CACS" charged off $39,850, limit $13000. Opened 1/26/2021 and charged off this prior month. He asked them to close the account and sent over a police report & ID theft report, he spoke with US bank which said it was opened in Charolette North Carolina in branch.....
this issue is... he didn't open it and... he's never been outside CA&Nevada..... they said they won't remove it cause he opened it in branch and has the address listed as North Carolina.....
Did they check the surveillance video?! That's the most obvious first step, in my eyes. To say nothing of comparing the ID shown at the branch, the signatures on the paperwork, etc., to the REAL person's.
This was my first thought, as well. If it was in-branch, they HAVE to have video of the person. That would immediately exonorate him. Seems the CFPB should be involved in some respect, as well.
He told them that, he sent over his complaint in the CFPB report and included his license, he works a union job here in CA and has never been outside CA (the exception being LV, Nevada).
I find it crazy, that even with a police report, a federal trade commission report, and his REAL CA ID, and a statement he wrote to US Bank (new one used for travel) they're still trying to pin the blame on him... he requested all documents from servicing/opening the account from us bank since they legally have to supply it to him under FCRA or FDCPA.
barclays just asked for his PD report, FTC theft report and then the Barclays Card US presidents office contacted him, asked him a series of questions and said they'll investigate, they then found him not to be liable, but requested he send back a affidavit attesting to the facts, and they're in the process of deleting them.
US Bank seems kinda incompetent in this manner.
UPDATE; US Bank just responded this to his CFPB report.
his last one they closed in 1 day and put "duplicate" he submitted this one after and they responded now saying that.
let's just cross our fingers for a good outcome, this one has the PD report, his statement and his denying of their previous response, and the FTC report, and him doing a ID Selfie
he spoke to US Bank today at 1Pm, he got a call from their internal risk department, he told them he was seeking to go to the media pending their response, offered to go into any branch so they can clearly identify him vs whoever was in North Carolina.
they told him they're researching the issue and they will update him the moment they reach a conclusion, they said they can't have him go into the branch for a comparison and that they're in contact with the branch staff since the branch was closed that opened the account.
The PD that he filed the report with just told him "tell us if they offer you any information so we can pick it up" so that tells you how much they're pursuing this $40,000.00 theft.... I would like to think that the PD would be the one in contact with the bank as much as possible but.. guess not.
@Taurus22 wrote:
@SoCalGardener wrote:
@Creditplz wrote:My cousin got a AA report from BofA saying they closed his card due to a review on his CR, he checked his CR since they had his score in 604 (was 730+ prior as he said).
it shows "US Bank CACS" charged off $39,850, limit $13000. Opened 1/26/2021 and charged off this prior month. He asked them to close the account and sent over a police report & ID theft report, he spoke with US bank which said it was opened in Charolette North Carolina in branch.....
this issue is... he didn't open it and... he's never been outside CA&Nevada..... they said they won't remove it cause he opened it in branch and has the address listed as North Carolina.....
Did they check the surveillance video?! That's the most obvious first step, in my eyes. To say nothing of comparing the ID shown at the branch, the signatures on the paperwork, etc., to the REAL person's.
This was my first thought, as well. If it was in-branch, they HAVE to have video of the person. That would immediately exonorate him. Seems the CFPB should be involved in some respect, as well.
You would think so but in reality: no. Those video systems are often designed to auto delete/recorded over after a specified amount of time which could be as short as 72 hours or as long as 30 days. Depends on how advanced the system is. Short of a bank robbery or drawer theft by an employee they really have no need for the footage. While the consumer is very definitely harmed by someone opening a 40k credit card and running it up the bank really doesn't care if they can slap the victim with the problem.
The suggestion to involve the media isn't bad per se but you need to remember that the media can put any spin on it they want and in the covidiocy era they aren't really interested in anything outside that. I would start calling NACA Consumer Attorneys. It is entirely possible one may take a case against US Bank on contingency for their failure to respond to what is clearly fraud and identity theft. I had a similar situation a couple of years ago. I got an alert from CITI asking if I had charged $1.75 at a vending machine in Manhattan. I am on the west coast as well. I texted back 2: NO and within 15 seconds they called me. During the call I made it clear I was not in Vegas on vacation I lived here and was no where near the state of NY or Manhattan. The next question was "then I guess you are not in Marshall's on [street] attempting a purchase for $3457 right now? Ummm NOOOO. They denied the purchase, locked down the card/cxl it and sent a new one FedEx over night. NEVER affected my credit or hit my reports. Proof your cousin has never left the west coast should have alerted US Bank and their failure to act should cost them.
1. Contact USB on their social media. Facebook, Twitter, etc. and spell out exactly what is happening. This puts his issue in front of the world essentially and I doubt USB wants the negative spotlight. Keep on them every time they respond that they won't remove the negative info from his reports.
2. Call the Charlotte Police Department and file a report there as well. As the crime occurred in their jurisdiction (and they're not pinned down by California "things"), they'll likely be more eager to bring the thief to justice. Offer a copy of the Charlotte PD report to USB as well.
3. Here in the SF Bay Area, there's a guy named Stanley Roberts who does a TV segment called "People Behaving Badly". Look him up on Facebook and tell him what's going on If it comes down to it. These types of stories are his bread and butter, and he's got a huge following up here.
4. Lastly, sign him up for a fraud resolution service and credit monitoring program like MyFico, Experian, Discover, etc. They take the headaches out of these things and he'll be covered under their insurance policy for things like this.
Best of luck to your cousin!
@Cowboys4Life wrote:
@Taurus22 wrote:
@SoCalGardener wrote:
@Creditplz wrote:My cousin got a AA report from BofA saying they closed his card due to a review on his CR, he checked his CR since they had his score in 604 (was 730+ prior as he said).
it shows "US Bank CACS" charged off $39,850, limit $13000. Opened 1/26/2021 and charged off this prior month. He asked them to close the account and sent over a police report & ID theft report, he spoke with US bank which said it was opened in Charolette North Carolina in branch.....
this issue is... he didn't open it and... he's never been outside CA&Nevada..... they said they won't remove it cause he opened it in branch and has the address listed as North Carolina.....
Did they check the surveillance video?! That's the most obvious first step, in my eyes. To say nothing of comparing the ID shown at the branch, the signatures on the paperwork, etc., to the REAL person's.
This was my first thought, as well. If it was in-branch, they HAVE to have video of the person. That would immediately exonorate him. Seems the CFPB should be involved in some respect, as well.
You would think so but in reality: no. Those video systems are often designed to auto delete/recorded over after a specified amount of time which could be as short as 72 hours or as long as 30 days. Depends on how advanced the system is. Short of a bank robbery or drawer theft by an employee they really have no need for the footage. While the consumer is very definitely harmed by someone opening a 40k credit card and running it up the bank really doesn't care if they can slap the victim with the problem.
You're absolutely right about the video footage--depending on how long ago this happened, it *MAY* have been deleted by now. But if it still existed at the time the incident was brought to light, the bank should've immediately locked-down that footage for safekeeping.
Besides, there's also the issue of the signature(s) and any ID the fake applicant supplied. The bank surely still has copies of those! They would've scanned them into the computer system at the time of the application and may also still have the physical paperwork.