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Hi Everyone,
I have gotten myself into some real credit trouble. I have about 29 credit cards all with various balances. 19 of them are store cards and 10 are major credit cards with balances ranging from $750 to $7000. My total debt is about $13,000. My scores for the three bureaus are in the 650 range. I really want to increase my score while decreasing my debt. Should I move all oft the balances from my store cards to my major cards so that I have no balances on my store cards? Then I can make payments on my major cards only? Is it safe to close out any of the store accounts? As you can see, I took some wrong turns in the past few years with opening up way too many cards, I have not made any late payments but I am totally in over my head. I would appreciate any help that anyone can give me.... Thanks.
I am sure that you will get a lot of different opinions on this one, as a lot depends upon how you choose to manage credit.
Personally, I dont think having the 19 cards is the real problem. If you dont mind monitoring due dates and making 19 separate payments each month, which I would not take the time to do, and can avoid delinquencies on all, then I would concentrate elsewhere for the real problem. However, if managing that number of accounts is causing you to miss due dates, for example, and is adding delinquencies to your CR, then it is probably time to consolidate.
In consolidating payments, obviously a major consideration is the interest rate on each card. I wouldnt think it wise to move balances from a lower rate store card, for example, to a higher rate bank card based only on it being a bank card. That will cost more $$.
Shifting most of the balance over to a few cards might have some short-term negative FICO impacts. Obviously, where the individual balances reside has no impact on overall % util. However, if shifting balances to a few cards puts one or more of them into a very high % util, that card will begin to have a higher negative effect on your score based on its higher perceived credit payment risk. It may also set off some bells with the creditor, and scrutiny for a possible credit line decrease.
Overall, I dont see shifting balances around as having a real substantive effect on score improvement. Only reducing overall debt will do that.
Hi mdb621, and welcome to the myFICO Forums!
Have you had an opportunity to read: The Son of Credit Scoring 101? If haven't, it's a good read, and it'll give you some solid tips about paying debt, instead of moving it around, especially if shifting the debt around isn't goving to save you a ton of money.
So, you have balances on all 29 cards, and you're starting to fell overwhelmed? It sounds like the perfect time for a "get out of debt" plan, and budget. First, don't despair. There's a few tens of thousands of us here in the FICO Forums who have been there, and lived to tell the tale. More importantly, we'll hang with you until you get it done! Next, if you haven't done so already, sit down and make a list of all of your cards (a Spreadsheet might work best), the credit limits, the balances, the APRs, and the minimum due each month. It should look something like this:
Card | Limit | Balance | APR | Minimum | ||
1 | Amex Blue Sky | 7500 | $ 5,000.00 | 5.00% | ||
2 | Your Credit Union Visa | 5500 | $ 3,000.00 | 13.90% | ||
3 | BankAmericard Visa | 2500 | $ 720.00 | 10.99% | ||
4 | Small Bank Mastercard | 2500 | $ 961.00 | 18.99% | ||
5 | Jewelry Emporium | 2000 | $ 43.00 | 18.99% | ||
6 | TV Warehouse | 3500 | $ 119.00 | 22.90% | ||
7 | etc… | 5600 | $ 400.00 | 7.99% | ||
TOTAL | $ - |
After you make the list, copy and paste it here. Lots of our members would be more than happy to give you their $.02 on what we call a "debt snowball". The idea is to pay the minimums on all but one card, and throw all of the rest of your money (designated for paying down debt) at either the card with the lowest balance, or the card with the highest APR, or whatever first card that you've designated for payoff. You keep on, in that manner until one-by-one each card is paid off.
You don't want to start closing any cards... Not just yet, anyway. Another good read is Closing Credit Cards by Fused. One of the things that he talks about is utilization. Utilization is 30% of your credit score. As you pay off cards, and have zero balances, your utilization margin will improve, and will ultimately raise your credit scores as you cross thresholds of percentages. You didn't mention what your overall utilization was, but closing those cards (while they'd remain on your credit reports for up to ten years, and would continue to factor positively in your age of accounts) would remove them from the utilization calculations. Ideally, if your utilization is high, you'd want to keep those lines open as you pay them off, to help your score to rise.
Amongst the most important things to do-- Stop using your credit cards. <-- At least until you're completely out of debt, and then make it your business to only charge what you can afford to PIF each month. Make a household budget, and stick to it. Make it as tight as you can stand, and then squeeze just a little tighter. Throw as much $$$ as you can afford at your debt. If you can, figure out ways to raise extra money, like garage sales, or selling the stuff in your closet & basement on eBay. Or, what about getting a part-time job?
And did I mention to not worry? This is very much doable! Be sure to come back and post the info about all 29 of your cards, and add in how much money, over and above the minimums, you have to throw at your debt. Our members are awesome! We'll help you get it figured out.
Thank you both for the responses! I do already have a spreadsheet so that I can keep track of all of these cards. I have about $500 extra that I can put on my cards each month so hopefully that will help. What I am lacking bigtime in is with a budget. I don't use one and I never have. So I know that I waste alot of money that I could be putting towards my debt. Does anyone have a good template that I can use? I would really appreciate it. I feel so much better about what is ahead of me. Thanks again everyone!! Here is my sheet below:
Credit Card | Balance | Limit | % of Bal | Rate | Min Pmt |
Major | |||||
Citi | $1,400.00 | $7,000.00 | 20.00% | 29.99% | $50.00 |
Chase | $400.00 | $2,000.00 | 20.00% | 28.24% | $20.00 |
Capital One | $183.59 | $750.00 | 24.48% | 24.90% | $20.00 |
Paypal | $2,991.69 | $5,400.00 | 55.40% | 23.99% | $20.00 |
Bank of America 9071 | $826.57 | $5,000.00 | 16.53% | 20.99% | $186.00 |
Citi 9307 | $590.26 | $3,000.00 | 19.68% | 19.99% | $20.00 |
Orchard | $320.00 | $1,600.00 | 20.00% | 14.99% | $20.00 |
Bank of America 1711 | $1,237.01 | $6,300.00 | 19.64% | 6.24% | $50.00 |
American Express | $145.00 | $1,000.00 | 14.50% | 0.00% | $145.00 |
Fifth Third | $177.02 | $1,000.00 | 17.70% | 23.99% | $25.00 |
Walmart Discover | $0.00 | $3,000.00 | 0.00% | 20.99% | $20.00 |
Store | |||||
Best Buy | $424.79 | $1,300.00 | 32.68% | 27.99% | $20.00 |
Meijer | $335.69 | $1,150.00 | 29.19% | 26.99% | $20.00 |
Home Depot | $54.30 | $3,300.00 | 1.65% | 25.99% | $20.00 |
Children's Place | $156.58 | $1,232.00 | 12.71% | 25.99% | $20.00 |
Target | $516.52 | $1,000.00 | 51.65% | 25.24% | $20.00 |
Giant Eagle | $511.77 | $1,200.00 | 42.65% | 24.99% | $20.00 |
Chadwicks | $138.64 | $600.00 | 23.11% | 24.99% | $20.00 |
Gap | $179.01 | $1,100.00 | 16.27% | 24.99% | $20.00 |
JCP | $340.17 | $1,800.00 | 18.90% | 23.99% | $20.00 |
Macy's | $272.74 | $1,000.00 | 27.27% | 23.99% | $20.00 |
Walmart | $138.48 | $900.00 | 15.39% | 22.90% | $20.00 |
Amazon | $758.00 | $1,275.00 | 59.45% | 21.90% | $20.00 |
Kohls | $411.78 | $1,000.00 | 41.18% | 21.90% | $20.00 |
Pottery Barn | $117.11 | $3,000.00 | 3.90% | 16.75% | $20.00 |
HSN | $172.34 | $3,500.00 | 4.92% | 26.99% | $20.00 |
VSC | $126.84 | $1,050.00 | 12.08% | 24.99% | $20.00 |
HH Gregg | $0.00 | $1,200.00 | 0.00% | 24.99% | $0.00 |
Sears | $0.00 | $1,650.00 | 0.00% | 24.99% | $0.00 |
Sam's Club | $55.28 | $800.00 | 6.91% | 22.90% |
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You could try the snowball effect. Start with paying off the lowest balances, then roll that amount into your next lowest balance paying them off one at a time. That will decrease the amount of accounts with a balance and make it easier. Just a suggestion.
I assume some of these are accounts that you Pay In Full each month so that you don't pay any interest on that account. If so, that info would help.
I think it is going to be important to work toward getting as many accounts as possible having an effective interest rate of 0%.