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How many times can one account mark the account charged off?

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How many times can one account mark the account charged off?

Can a single account be listed as being charged off 17 different times? 

I should clarify that I'm NOT asking how many times debt can be resold, or show up on the report. I know that answer. What I'm asking is for a single entry on a report. The account has actually never been bought from the original creditor. It is showing on Equifax. 

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thornback
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Re: How many times can one account mark the account charged off?

Hi Rocki, welcome to the forums!

The original creditor may update the account's continued charge-off status for every month the debt remains unpaid, each time suppressing your scores and keeping the derogatory current.

However, even though it has multiple charge-off notations in the payment history, it counts as a single charge-off account.

The only ways for continuous negative updating to cease is payment of the outstanding balance or if the debt is sold (which could then result in a new collection tradeline that will also update monthly).
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thornback
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Re: how many times can a single account be charged off

Answered this Q in your other post located in the Rebuilding forum...

Please try to avoid posting for a specific topic more than once so we don't have duplicate threads, thx! 😊
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UncleB
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Re: how many times can a single account be charged off


@thornback wrote:
Answered this Q in your other post located in the Rebuilding forum...

Please try to avoid posting for a specific topic more than once so we don't have duplicate threads, thx! 😊

+1

 

@Anonymous I've merged/removed your duplicate thread.  Please avoid cross-posting; it's confusing to follow and is against the guidelines here.

 

--UB

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Anonymous
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Re: How many times can one account mark the account charged off?

Thank you for the welcome!

 I'm worried that it is, in fact, counting as more than one charge off. I'll explain - I just got my updated 3 CB report (bought from Experian) Two CB are listing it as closed (Dec. 2013.) Yet there are 2 (120 days) late pays in 2014 and then on-time payments for the next 21 months. THEN the negative mark (charge off mark) is marked every month for the following 15 months. 
The true last delinquency date was august 2013

How would I check to verify that it is only being counted as one charge off per CB? 

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Anonymous
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Re: how many times can a single account be charged off

I wasn't sure which thread to post it in. What do I do when I want to post something that is categorically correct for more than one category?

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Anonymous
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Re: how many times can a single account be charged off

OH! okay. is it possible for me to merge my threads? if its both categorically correct for more than one?

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thornback
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Re: how many times can a single account be charged off

Lol... just pick the most relevant category - the Mods will move it if they feel it would better fit elsewhere. You cannot merge your own threads.

Back to your charge-off -

What you are describing is two chains of delinquency for one account. This happens when an account goes delinquent, then is brought current, then goes delinquent again.

Did you ever attempt to bring the account current after it went 120days past due? If not, then this appears to be an error in the reporting and you could dispute it.

It still counts as a single chargeoff account - but the multiple chains of delinquency will affect the 7 year exclusion period which is based on the Date of First Delinquency (DOFD). The DOFD is the month/year the account first became delinquent AND was never brought current. If the account is brought current and then becomes delinquent again - that new delinquency date determines when the account will be removed.

My suggestion is to make sure the payment history is innacurate before trying to dispute. Do not rely on the web-based reports to confirm this type of info because, sometimes, their user-friendly fluff software misrepresents the actual data as it's pulled. Either contact the bureaus and request they mail you hard copies of your reports, or go to annualcreditreport.com to retrieve them (free and federally regulated). Either source will allow you to confirm the scheduled drop date so you can determine the DOFD.

Hope all of that made sense. If not - please feel free to ask as many questions as you have and either I (in the morning) or someone else will help answer them...
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Anonymous
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Re: how many times can a single account be charged off

NO never! The last delinquency date was August 2013. They closed the account in December 2013. I've never paid it since and they've never resold the debt either. I've read the book Credit Secrets (if you're not familiar with it, it lays out a DIY approach to repairing your own credit by using the laws already in place to make the CB's and CA and CL's follow the laws to a T and what to do when they don't follow them.)so you don't have to explain your statements after you tell me something. I'll understand what you're talking about 90% of the time. Of course, I don't know everything (like this particular issue of whether or not a charge off can even occur more than once for a single account. 

and I would never confirm just volunteer this information to the CB's! The burden of proof is on them. If they don't know then they didn't follow the law. I can't remember exactly off the top of my head but its something like they must report the date of the last delinquency within 90 days of the initial report to CB. but I might be confusing that with when the debt is resold... they have 90 days to get that info or else it is assumed based on other things.... It's something like that. I'm just saying that the bottom line - the burden of proof is on them and reported info must be accurate. BUT I'm definitely going to dispute with the CB because they are listing the wrong last payment date. and they are listing seriously inaccurate payment history. Kohls closed the account in Dec 2009 yet they didn't stop updating the account until 2017. There are several on-time payments and charge offs after the account was closed. Which was impossible and illegal to do and illegal for the CB to report it. 

I just wanted to know if the account was 17 times more negatively affecting my report (because of the 17 charge offs.) versus the negative affect of an account being charged off just once. Or if it was even possible. This is the area that I lack knowledge on big time. 


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Anonymous
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Re: how many times can a single account be charged off

wow sorry for such a long response. I didn't re-read it before I post it. 

I wanted to add that I don't use any other websites other than the actual CB sites themselves because they cant be used in court should I sue any CB or CA. I do use credit karma and some others for personal reasons like ease of use but I ALWAYS make sure that the reports match the ones listed on the actual CB websites though if I'm disputing anything. I also update my report same day as I write the dispute letter. 

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