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I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

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I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

I am desperate.  I make somewhat decent money but I'm still broke.  My house is $100k and I drive a Honda Civic and would like to upgrade both in the near future but I have to get my finances in a better position so that I can do that.  I come from a very poor, dysfunctional family so I have no one to ask for advice.  So I am turning to the Fico folks.  These are my monthly expenses: (creditor, balance, interest, monthly payment) 

                                                  Balan

  • Citicard 1                            $464          13.24%     $20/mo
  • HSBC                                 $362          29.5%       $19/mo
  • Htrs                                    $1,773        21.2%       $55/mo
  • Target                                 $3.405        17.24%      $90/mo
  • Citi 2                                   $432           27.24%     $20/mo
  • Home Depot                         $999          33.99%      $33/mo
  • Discover                               $3.406       0% (intro)   $70/mo
  • Amx                                    $600          17.24%       $15/mo
  • Credit Union - HELOC           $7,414        5.5%         $120/mo
  • Credit Union - personal ln       $3.185        13%           $180/mo
  • Car pmt 1                             $15,275       8.94%        $511/mo
  • Car pmt 2                             $7,903          7.7%          $197/mo
  • Mortgage (2002)                    $100,213     5.88%         $838/mo
  • Student loan                         $50,655      6.75%         $285/mo
  • Car Insurance                        $185/mo

 

 >> Take home $4,000 per month

  

I have 2 car payments because my son is in school and I pay for his car.   Again, I just feel like at $100k a year salary I should be able to afford a house with a gararge.   Silly I know but I think you get the point.  Isn't there a certain %age of your salary that should be spent on housing?  I just would think that majority of my monthly expenses should be spent on housing, right?  So, I just need some guidance - not criticism.  Thanks so much for any help!

 

By the way, my credit scores are currently:  TU 720, EX 660, EQ  655

Message Edited by newtoit on 08-29-2009 10:49 AM
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smallfry
Senior Contributor

Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

First thing I would do is pay off the credit card debt as soon as possible. Shouldn't be too hard.
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Anonymous
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Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

Most of your CC carry a hefty interest rate.

 

I would start by paying down/off some of your CCs.  Make the minimum payments on all except the one with the lowest balance.  Pay as much as you can on that each month until it is paid off.  Then use all of that money and go to the one with the next smallest balance.  Continue doing this until they are all paid. 

 

I suggest the one with the lowest balance, 1) it is easier to reach the end goal  2) there is a big sense of accomplishment to see it paid off.  Others may say to pay off the one with the highest interest first.  It is really your choice.  The end result will be the sam.  More money in your pocket.

 

Once they are all paid, only use a few of them each month.  Keep the others at a 0 balance.  For the ones you use, pay them in full each month before the statement posts.

 

What about other expenses such as heating, water, cable, cell phone, etc?  Is there anything you could cut out, even temporarily?

 

For a over a year my kids and I lived without creature comforts, like TV, cell phone, internet etc.  We all hated it but it worked.  I got my bills paid and my head above water.

Message Edited by guiness56 on 08-29-2009 08:14 AM
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haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

And another variant on the two methods of paying off CC debt that guiness mentioned is to pay off the three lowest balances, to get that sense of accomplishment and free up the minimum payments on those cards, and then go after the highest APR. You get both the boost of a quick start, and the financial advantage of then killing off the high interest debt.

If your son is old enough to drive, do you still have very young kids at home? If not, I'd go pick up a weekend job at a local grocery store or fast-food place. It's hard to beat having extra income, and you'll be too busy and too tired to use your cards any more. You also might get a discount on your groceries, etc. I picked up a second job to pay off an unexpected tuition increase for one of my kids that I had to put on a CC, and I like the extra money so much that I'm still doing it 3 years later.

But the main thing is to look at your CC debt burden with a long, cold stare, and realize how it's keeping you from being where you want to be. That will help you take the necessity of getting rid of it seriously. It can definitely be done! Good luck.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

Welcome to the forum!

 

They say admitting you have a problem is a great first step.

 

Let me tell you a secret, come here, move in close, I could be killed for what I am about to tell you, Ok  listen:

 

Unless you are that .001% of the US population that is ultra rich, I mean Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Paris Hilton swimming pool filled with money delivered every day rich...you have a budget, and for the most part you try to stick to it.

 

You can clear $300,000 a year but if you spend $400,000 you are still screwed.

 

 

You need to change your attitude about money and how you handle it, use it, earn it save it and most importantly spend it. I am not sure if you are married and if you are you will need to get her on board but you need to:

 

I am serious when I say this is go buy a notebook. a small,spiral, fit in your pocket one, and  every penny you spend that leaves your hands needs to be accounted for. Dieters do this a lot and it works- especially if you can stick to it. 

Quit using credit or debit when you can, just take out a fixed amount from the bank and use that for a week. (No ATM transactions, you trend to spend more and may be charged fees and credit/debit causes many people to spend more) 

 

Every McDonalds Coffee, Redbox rental, grocery run, newspaper, Bagel, Turnpike Toll,  vending machine soda-write it down. large and small big tall, and bill payments, you wriet the check or th epayment comes out of yo account righ **bleep** down.

 

Every Sunday transpose it all to a master list.

After thirty days take a good hard look at it really look at it.


See where your money goes.


I firmly believe that anyone who has not taken a good hard fearless look at their monthly finances is frittering away hundreds of dollars.

 

So see where it goes.


You may be surprised to see that the $3.85 you spend on coffee daily is actually $77.00 a month And that you spend $11.00 a day eating out or ordering lunch in when if you packed it you would only spend $4.00 or even less assuming leftovers (11-4=7. 7*5*4.=140 a month)

 

And thats free hard after tax income if yo compar eit to what you have normally been spending and what you are now saving.

 

Stopping both for a month would pay off a credit card in full.

 

Just because you make a hundred K a year does not mean you should not have a budget and know what you are spending. And if you have spent money before under the belief you make enough and should be able to do X______, you are probably still also overspending every day in other areas:


be it eating out alone with family or whatever, ordering pizza instead of buying frozen, not shopping aggressively, having all the cable channels you never watch,  both a blockbuster and netflix subsription, One stop shopping at a grocery store instead of comparison shopping between several stores(which usually adds 30% to what you spend,) phone service you do not use/need, not shopping around insurance, not shopping prescriptions, picking up the check for the group, not exploring quality generics,(wal mart mouthwash vs Listerine $3.00 a bottle)  

 

 

Shopping with a grocery list and limiting shopping trips, along with buying what you eat and eating what you buy (vs throwing it away) is said to save an average family $25-$60 a week in unnecessary spending.


I say you could probably come up with $500 a month minimum in savings/extra money and use that to pay your cards down.

 

I live alone and save over 300 that way.

 

 

EDITED CAUSE SOMEDAYS I HAVE BAD SPELLING, BUT THIS WAS HORRIBLE.

Message Edited by usmc58555 on 08-29-2009 12:30 PM
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smallfry
Senior Contributor

Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

+1.
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Anonymous
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Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

Thanks for all of your input.   I am in grad school so another job really isn't ideal right now.  Good suggestion though.  I don't have any other children- just the one in college so I live alone.    I use my debit card for everything so that I can track my spending via Microsoft Money.  These are my expenses for Aug:

 

  • Car payments:  $709
  • Gas: $150
  • Groceries: $432
  • Student loan:  $285
  • HELOC: $120
  • Dining out:  $399
  • Utilities: $329
  • Credit cards: $283
  • Gym: $40
  • Other: (haircut, manicure, sunglasses, etc): $100
  • Bank fees (overdraft): $75
  • Household supplies: $62
  • ATM Cash: $60
  • Entertainment: $31
  • Mortgage: $840

 

Again, any guidance is appreciated.

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2wheel
Frequent Contributor

Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

I would start paying some of the smaller cards first. Snowball effect get it paid for and dont use it anymore.

I would also look into not spending 400 a month for dining out. Eat in more often heck just 1 month and you would have the hsbc card paid for.  Just cut a little off every month until you get finances together.  Sometimes it takes just a few months to see more money in your pocket every month...

2wheel
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Lel
Moderator Emeritus

Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

Okay folks, a couple messages were removed because they probably would have led to a lot of unnecessary off-topic sniping.

 

People come to these forums to lay bare their financial and credit souls.  All members are asked to be friendly, respectful, and supportive of each other.  This includes not posting snarky comments that insult, belittle, or make light of another's situation, even if it is an attempt at humor.

 

And if you find yourself on the receiving end of such a comment, you can achieve the moral high ground by not responding to it and moving on.

 

Thank you.

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haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: I make $100k a year and I'm still broke. Need some help.

I'd say that the dining out and "other" are the most obvious targets.

Do you eat out with friends? They're probably in the same boat to some extent. Consider setting up weekly potlucks --everyone signs up for something different (meat, veg, other side, dessert, wine, etc.) and supplies enough in their category to feed all. No tipping needed! This preserves the social aspect of eating out, but saves a bunch of money, and spreads the work around.

And the "other" stuff does sound like it could be pared back severely. Just tell yourself that it won't be forever, just until you're back on your feet. All these expenses are after-tax money, so it's pure savings to move them over to your existing spending patterns.

And I wholeheartedly agree with usmc. It's awfully easy for us to hide away some of our expenses, even from ourselves. Write it all down, and then see what you've got. I don't think that anyone needs to live like a hermit in a cave. If buying fresh-cut flowers once a week is important to you, then do it! But there's bound to be something there that you can let go of for a while.

Nothing lasts forever, including diets and paying off bills. And sometimes when we put things on hold for a while, we find that they really weren't that important in the first place.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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