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Inquiries & New Accounts

Hello all!

 

Is it possible for a person's credit profile to get to a point that adding new inquiries or accounts has no impact on their FICO scores? Thanks in advance for your help!

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Yes, it's possible. A friend of mine has a file so thick and with such a long history that when she added a couple cards recently it had zero impact on her scores.

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I think it take years of AAOA and a nice clean file with several cards. I wish I was there. It would be nice to not see your score drop for an inquiry. The inquiry should only be on the record for 1 year.

 

What is the actual explanation for why there is a two year showing, if anyone knows?

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I am definitely not there yet as witnessed by the scores in my siggy...

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The inquiries stay on the credit report for two years.  But the FICO models stop considering them after one.

 

The reason for the difference is that FICO makes its own decisions about what CRA data to consider, but they don't control what the CRAs keep on the reports.  (Conversely, however, if a piece of data is not on the report then FICO can't consider it.)

 

Some credit scoring models consider inquiries for longer than a year -- e.g. Vantage -- and an underwriter manually reviewing the report can certainly consider inquiries older than a year. 

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But Music you said the other day that you added a number of accounts? Your scores went down based on how many new accounts? 

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My point was if they only score it for 1 year, then clearly there is no real basis for it to show for 2 years. And the fact that once the account starts showing on the credit report for monthly updates, the newness of the account is reflected. 

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@Anonymous wrote:

My point was if they only score it for 1 year, then clearly there is no real basis for it to show for 2 years. And the fact that once the account starts showing on the credit report for monthly updates, the newness of the account is reflected. 


I may be not being fully clear or maybe I didn't fully understand your initial question

 

When you say that "they" only score it for 1 year, I am guessing you mean FICO.  And you are right.  FICO's algorithms only score inquiries for their first year.  But FICO doesn't own the data.  The data belongs to the three bureaus.  And the bureaus don't exist to serve FICO, though perhaps it can seem that way.  The credit bureau data is the real primary thing -- FICO's scores are just one interpretation of that data.  Vantage make credit scores that interpret the data and Vantage considers inquiries for the full two years.  And then, as I said earlier, undwerwriters who manually review reports may have policies that involve considering all two years of the inquiries.

 

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Thanks everyone for posting your thoughts. I am seeing some strange things happening with my credit profile. It could be a system glitch. Who knows? If anything changes I will come back and post an update. See you around the forum!Smiley Happy

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@Anonymous wrote:

But Music you said the other day that you added a number of accounts? Your scores went down based on how many new accounts? 


Fourteen! lol Smiley Very Happy So far twelve have reported. Oh, plus a new car that hit me with twelve inquiries.

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