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Message from Citibank regarding updated Fico Score (and authorize user)

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Message from Citibank regarding updated Fico Score (and authorize user)


@Anonymous wrote:

@gwizdak24 wrote:

I was curious as to why the fico score which should be monthly was last updated Dec 23rd.  Also I wanted to know if I added an authorize user if it would report to their credit report.

I must say, Citibank responds to any of my messages by the next day.

This is the response I recieved. 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer,

We update your FICO Score every month on the website. However, the most recent update that is reported to us by Equifax is not available for us to display on the website until the end of the following month. In other words, we estimate that you will see a refreshed score near the end of February.

The FICO® Credit Score is only available to the primary cardmember. We do not have FICO Scores for authorized users.

We do report any authorized users on accounts to the credit bureaus.

We hope this information is helpful.

Thank you for using our website.


As an AU on a Citi card....this is a lie. It's reported on all 3 of my reports. I wish they'd add the score for the AU tho! 

 

 


They said they do report... not that they don't Smiley Happy  I misread it at first too though haha.




        
Message 11 of 15
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Message from Citibank regarding updated Fico Score (and authorize user)


@Anonymous wrote:

@bdhu2001 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@gwizdak24 wrote:

I was curious as to why the fico score which should be monthly was last updated Dec 23rd.  Also I wanted to know if I added an authorize user if it would report to their credit report.

I must say, Citibank responds to any of my messages by the next day.

This is the response I recieved. 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer,

We update your FICO Score every month on the website. However, the most recent update that is reported to us by Equifax is not available for us to display on the website until the end of the following month. In other words, we estimate that you will see a refreshed score near the end of February.

The FICO® Credit Score is only available to the primary cardmember. We do not have FICO Scores for authorized users.

We do report any authorized users on accounts to the credit bureaus.

We hope this information is helpful.

Thank you for using our website.


So if I'm understanding that correctly, that means that at the end of February we'll get a score that is based on data Citi received on or around January 23rd. I was already disappointed by the fact that it's a Bankcard score instead of a classic score, but now they're saying every score refresh they provide will be based on data that's a month old? 

 

Apparently FICO really didn't want to hurt their little revenue stream from myFICO or Citi wasn't willing to pay very much for this "perk" to provide its cardholders.


Be reasonable.  It's unlikely that CitiBank is constantly FICO score monitoring every single account daily.  In addition, it would be cost prohibitive and cost too many man hours to constantly update your FICO score on their website.

 

Right now you have to pay every month for a new score to myFICO it's a service you're paying for and they're in the business of passing through FICO scores. Your credit card company is not. Just be happy that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has convinced them to release information.


Although I admittedly went a little overboard with expressing my disgust, I don't think I'm being unreasonable. My issue is not with the frequency of the score. My issue, based on the message that was sent to the OP, was with the freshness of the score when it is provided. I'd rather have a fresh/current score once every 2 months than have a month old score provided every month.

 

Discover's FICO is perfect. It's once a month and when they provide the score it's only a few days old. That should be the model all the other banks follow. I would never expect Citi to monitor my credit score daily or even weekly. That would be unreasonable.

 

Based on everyone's update yesterday it seems like Citi's score will be about 2 weeks old when it's provided. It's not ideal, but it's better than the month old score that was hinted at by the CSR's message.


Place the blame where it's due, if the information is even accurate.

 

If legit, this is purely a Citibank decision, nothing to do with FICO.  Based on the other lenders' implementation there's no restriction as to when the score can be provided under the FICO Open Access program, and anecdotally FICO doesn't honestly care that much about FICO Consumer, it's an absurdly trivial component of their $750M annual revenue.

 

It costs virtually nothing when it comes to displaying the scores... it's no different than pulling current balance or pending charges when you login, just another two columns in a database table to put in the user interface; anyway the vast majority of content providers update as soon as there's something to display (Twitter / Facebook et al.) and this dataset is incredibly small in comparison.  If this true, this is a lender being at best lazy and at worst, well... clearly the data exists somewhere in their infrastructure as for certain they aren't getting a month old score which they'd scream bloody murder on.

 

A month old score sucks, plain and simple... that all said, it could simply be a misinformed CSR as well.




        
Message 12 of 15
bdhu2001
Valued Contributor

Re: Message from Citibank regarding updated Fico Score (and authorize user)


@Anonymous wrote:

@bdhu2001 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@gwizdak24 wrote:

I was curious as to why the fico score which should be monthly was last updated Dec 23rd.  Also I wanted to know if I added an authorize user if it would report to their credit report.

I must say, Citibank responds to any of my messages by the next day.

This is the response I recieved. 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer,

We update your FICO Score every month on the website. However, the most recent update that is reported to us by Equifax is not available for us to display on the website until the end of the following month. In other words, we estimate that you will see a refreshed score near the end of February.

The FICO® Credit Score is only available to the primary cardmember. We do not have FICO Scores for authorized users.

We do report any authorized users on accounts to the credit bureaus.

We hope this information is helpful.

Thank you for using our website.


So if I'm understanding that correctly, that means that at the end of February we'll get a score that is based on data Citi received on or around January 23rd. I was already disappointed by the fact that it's a Bankcard score instead of a classic score, but now they're saying every score refresh they provide will be based on data that's a month old? 

 

Apparently FICO really didn't want to hurt their little revenue stream from myFICO or Citi wasn't willing to pay very much for this "perk" to provide its cardholders.


Be reasonable.  It's unlikely that CitiBank is constantly FICO score monitoring every single account daily.  In addition, it would be cost prohibitive and cost too many man hours to constantly update your FICO score on their website.

 

Right now you have to pay every month for a new score to myFICO it's a service you're paying for and they're in the business of passing through FICO scores. Your credit card company is not. Just be happy that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has convinced them to release information.


Although I admittedly went a little overboard with expressing my disgust, I don't think I'm being unreasonable. My issue is not with the frequency of the score. My issue, based on the message that was sent to the OP, was with the freshness of the score when it is provided. I'd rather have a fresh/current score once every 2 months than have a month old score provided every month.

 

Discover's FICO is perfect. It's once a month and when they provide the score it's only a few days old. That should be the model all the other banks follow. I would never expect Citi to monitor my credit score daily or even weekly. That would be unreasonable.

 

Based on everyone's update yesterday it seems like Citi's score will be about 2 weeks old when it's provided. It's not ideal, but it's better than the month old score that was hinted at by the CSR's message.


Duly noted noted; how quickly does your TU score, from Discover, appear?  My EX FICO score from FNBO takes about 10 days and I think my Discover score takes about 6 days, but I don't track the exact date that the TU score hits like I did the EX from FNBO

Original Mortgage maturity Sept 2044; Refi maturity Dec 2030
Starting Score: EX 751 EQ 720 TU 737 on 4/9/14
Current Score: EX 849 EQ 835 TU 843
Goal Score: 850


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Message 13 of 15
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Message from Citibank regarding updated Fico Score (and authorize user)


@bdhu2001 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@bdhu2001 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@gwizdak24 wrote:

I was curious as to why the fico score which should be monthly was last updated Dec 23rd.  Also I wanted to know if I added an authorize user if it would report to their credit report.

I must say, Citibank responds to any of my messages by the next day.

This is the response I recieved. 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer,

We update your FICO Score every month on the website. However, the most recent update that is reported to us by Equifax is not available for us to display on the website until the end of the following month. In other words, we estimate that you will see a refreshed score near the end of February.

The FICO® Credit Score is only available to the primary cardmember. We do not have FICO Scores for authorized users.

We do report any authorized users on accounts to the credit bureaus.

We hope this information is helpful.

Thank you for using our website.


So if I'm understanding that correctly, that means that at the end of February we'll get a score that is based on data Citi received on or around January 23rd. I was already disappointed by the fact that it's a Bankcard score instead of a classic score, but now they're saying every score refresh they provide will be based on data that's a month old? 

 

Apparently FICO really didn't want to hurt their little revenue stream from myFICO or Citi wasn't willing to pay very much for this "perk" to provide its cardholders.


Be reasonable.  It's unlikely that CitiBank is constantly FICO score monitoring every single account daily.  In addition, it would be cost prohibitive and cost too many man hours to constantly update your FICO score on their website.

 

Right now you have to pay every month for a new score to myFICO it's a service you're paying for and they're in the business of passing through FICO scores. Your credit card company is not. Just be happy that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has convinced them to release information.


Although I admittedly went a little overboard with expressing my disgust, I don't think I'm being unreasonable. My issue is not with the frequency of the score. My issue, based on the message that was sent to the OP, was with the freshness of the score when it is provided. I'd rather have a fresh/current score once every 2 months than have a month old score provided every month.

 

Discover's FICO is perfect. It's once a month and when they provide the score it's only a few days old. That should be the model all the other banks follow. I would never expect Citi to monitor my credit score daily or even weekly. That would be unreasonable.

 

Based on everyone's update yesterday it seems like Citi's score will be about 2 weeks old when it's provided. It's not ideal, but it's better than the month old score that was hinted at by the CSR's message.


Duly noted noted; how quickly does your TU score, from Discover, appear?  My EX FICO score from FNBO takes about 10 days and I think my Discover score takes about 6 days, but I don't track the exact date that the TU score hits like I did the EX from FNBO


I used to be able to see my TU FICO on the 9th of every month and it was my score as of the 4th. I recently changed my due date, so that's a little out of whack now. My last score was viewable on either February 1st or 2nd and it's as of January 27th. It seems to be 5-6 days old for me consistently. Sometimes I can see it the day before my statement cuts.

Message 14 of 15
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Message from Citibank regarding updated Fico Score (and authorize user)


@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@bdhu2001 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@gwizdak24 wrote:

I was curious as to why the fico score which should be monthly was last updated Dec 23rd.  Also I wanted to know if I added an authorize user if it would report to their credit report.

I must say, Citibank responds to any of my messages by the next day.

This is the response I recieved. 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer,

We update your FICO Score every month on the website. However, the most recent update that is reported to us by Equifax is not available for us to display on the website until the end of the following month. In other words, we estimate that you will see a refreshed score near the end of February.

The FICO® Credit Score is only available to the primary cardmember. We do not have FICO Scores for authorized users.

We do report any authorized users on accounts to the credit bureaus.

We hope this information is helpful.

Thank you for using our website.


So if I'm understanding that correctly, that means that at the end of February we'll get a score that is based on data Citi received on or around January 23rd. I was already disappointed by the fact that it's a Bankcard score instead of a classic score, but now they're saying every score refresh they provide will be based on data that's a month old? 

 

Apparently FICO really didn't want to hurt their little revenue stream from myFICO or Citi wasn't willing to pay very much for this "perk" to provide its cardholders.


Be reasonable.  It's unlikely that CitiBank is constantly FICO score monitoring every single account daily.  In addition, it would be cost prohibitive and cost too many man hours to constantly update your FICO score on their website.

 

Right now you have to pay every month for a new score to myFICO it's a service you're paying for and they're in the business of passing through FICO scores. Your credit card company is not. Just be happy that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has convinced them to release information.


Although I admittedly went a little overboard with expressing my disgust, I don't think I'm being unreasonable. My issue is not with the frequency of the score. My issue, based on the message that was sent to the OP, was with the freshness of the score when it is provided. I'd rather have a fresh/current score once every 2 months than have a month old score provided every month.

 

Discover's FICO is perfect. It's once a month and when they provide the score it's only a few days old. That should be the model all the other banks follow. I would never expect Citi to monitor my credit score daily or even weekly. That would be unreasonable.

 

Based on everyone's update yesterday it seems like Citi's score will be about 2 weeks old when it's provided. It's not ideal, but it's better than the month old score that was hinted at by the CSR's message.


Place the blame where it's due, if the information is even accurate.

 

If legit, this is purely a Citibank decision, nothing to do with FICO.  Based on the other lenders' implementation there's no restriction as to when the score can be provided under the FICO Open Access program, and anecdotally FICO doesn't honestly care that much about FICO Consumer, it's an absurdly trivial component of their $750M annual revenue.

 

It costs virtually nothing when it comes to displaying the scores... it's no different than pulling current balance or pending charges when you login, just another two columns in a database table to put in the user interface; anyway the vast majority of content providers update as soon as there's something to display (Twitter / Facebook et al.) and this dataset is incredibly small in comparison.  If this true, this is a lender being at best lazy and at worst, well... clearly the data exists somewhere in their infrastructure as for certain they aren't getting a month old score which they'd scream bloody murder on.

 

A month old score sucks, plain and simple... that all said, it could simply be a misinformed CSR as well.


I agree. I had a hard time imagining FICO could care at all about scores they sell to consumers since relatively speaking the amount of revenue would be tiny, but I was giving Citi the benefit of the doubt. They seem to be lazy or inept for the time being. Hopefully that will change and they can start providing some information to their CSRs so they know how to respond.

Message 15 of 15
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