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Need Advice on what to do

Hi there, My name is Topher and I need advice. Surely this information exists on this site somewhere, but I simply cannot find it. Here is my situation. Currently I rent an apartment (solo mission), and I pay about 800 a month in rent. I also have student loan debt and am on an IBR thing. My credit score is 634. I want to pay less, and so I decided it might be a good time to go in on a house, as my job is steady and I can afford the rent, but I would rather have a lower payment and maybe pocket some for savings. Anyway here is what I was told.

 

I could get a morgage loan for what I want my budget payment to be, but with my current score if I raised it I could get a lower interest rate, which is always good, and also "wiggle room" with a down payment program. I would like to also note that I am trying to raise my credit,  accomplish recieving a loan as a FHB, search for a house, and buy and close within 5-6 months. So I am trying to do this rather quickly. They told me that if I get a First Premier Bank CC I could raise my credit fast, as they report to the CB every 14 days. Is this true? The actual advice from morgage lender.  "Get the CC, pay the horrible upfront fees, spend $25 on it, pay it promptly when the bill comes (DO NOT USE IT FOR MORE THEN THAT $25), rinse and repeat until closed on house." Furthermore, I do not have any revolving credit on my report, I have never had a card. I only have student loans, a couple small deliquencies from utilities years ago(which I am fixing) and a very small car loan I got a couple years ago with steady payments.

 

So basically I am asking, is this good advice to raise my credit the fastest? Is there a better option? Is this a bad morgage lender and I should move along? Also remember I am trying to be into my new house by March of 2016.

 

Any advice is appreciated, and I thank you so much in advance.

 

Regards,

Topher

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
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Do you have any credit cards?  If you have three or more, you don't need anymore.  If you have no credit cards, you need to get three of them.

 

Do not do First Premier or Credit One.  They are blood-sucking vampires.

 

Your score is decent if it's a FICO score.

 

Go to the Capital One prequalifier and see if you prequalify. If you do, apply for the Platinum Card.  If it is approved, immediately in the same session apply for the Quicksilver One.  You should be approved for it as well.

 

Now you just need one more revolving card.

 

Capital One will have pulled your credit from all three bureaus, so you will have one new inquiry from each bureau, which is okay.

 

Now for your third card, you can do the shopping card trick.  This works with Comenity cards.

 

Go to Victoria's Secret or JCrew and pretend to buy something by choosing any item and putting it in your shopping cart.  Proceed to enter your address information.  When you advance to the next screen for payment, you should see a popup window that says you are approved for a credit card (usually it's about $250 to $500, but you don't know the limit until you accept it).  If you get the preapproval popup, you can accept the card and you will get your third tradeline without a hard inquiry dinging your score.

 

Do not get more than one card using this shopping card trick.  These are crappy cards, 28% interest, yada, yada, yada, but that will give you three cards and you're done.

 

You need to have one (and only one) card report a balance each month, and you want it to be for like $5.

 

You can put a small charge on each card to get it to report, but payoff the charge before the statement cuts, except the one card reporing a $5 balance.

 

If you have cards already, tell us why your scores aren't higher.  Do you have derogatory entries on your reports?  High utilization?

 

Again, if you have three cards already, you do not want to open any credit cards prior to your mortgage.

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
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On the shopping card trick to get the Comenity card, do not complete the purchase.  If you get the credit card, accept it and then close out the window.  You do not have to buy something to get the card.

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Anonymous
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Hey thanks so much for the reply. I do not have any credit cards, I never have. I was told I need to get my credit over 640 to qualify for a particular program for a little to no down payment under the FHA program. I have two things wrong that I have been told of. A cable inquiry from a while ago, in which my brother used my name like a jerk, and a defaulted perkins loan, which I am working with the school to resolve and go back to original payments.

 

Honestly I have always been afraid of credit and their cards of plastic fury. But I want my own home and I want to be able to save money for things. As for anything else I have some low hospital bills that are like ten years old, but was told to leave them alone. I pay my car payment on time each month, and my main school loan. I was told I need some "revolving credit" to increase my score, that is why that card was suggested. Also he told me they report every 14 days so it would bring me up fast.

 

If I take your route, how long would it take to aquire 20 points? Should a secured credit card be used or is this more for people trying to recover? You say a 5 dollar balance, does this mean pay it off when or slightly before the due date then buy something else to keep it at $5? And lastly, would it be a bad idea to use the card, instead of the $5, for gas and pay it off the same as previously suggested?

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Anonymous
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Just thought of a question would a Comenity card be a Walmart credit card? I get preapproved for those silly things everytime I click a button on that site.

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
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@Anonymous wrote:

Hey thanks so much for the reply. I do not have any credit cards, I never have. I was told I need to get my credit over 640 to qualify for a particular program for a little to no down payment under the FHA program. I have two things wrong that I have been told of. A cable inquiry from a while ago, in which my brother used my name like a jerk, and a defaulted perkins loan, which I am working with the school to resolve and go back to original payments.

 

Honestly I have always been afraid of credit and their cards of plastic fury. But I want my own home and I want to be able to save money for things. As for anything else I have some low hospital bills that are like ten years old, but was told to leave them alone. I pay my car payment on time each month, and my main school loan. I was told I need some "revolving credit" to increase my score, that is why that card was suggested. Also he told me they report every 14 days so it would bring me up fast.

 

If I take your route, how long would it take to aquire 20 points? Should a secured credit card be used or is this more for people trying to recover? You say a 5 dollar balance, does this mean pay it off when or slightly before the due date then buy something else to keep it at $5? And lastly, would it be a bad idea to use the card, instead of the $5, for gas and pay it off the same as previously suggested?


If you have no credit cards now, you should see about a 40 to 60 point gain by adding three cards.

You can actually use the cards all you want.  The point is to only have a very small balance report on the statement cut date on only one of the cards.  For some folks it's just easier to put on Netflix charge on their card and call it good.  Sometimes you won't know the statement cut date in advance of the first statement, but you can push a payment through your  bank's bill pay system to that creditor.  Say you owe $25 on your account from one charge.  Immediately after making that charge, "push" a payment from your own bank account to that credit card for $20.  

 

Utilization just looks at any point in time, so if you have multiple cards report, or a slightly higher balance, it doesn't matter because it will clear up again next month if you get it right.

 

I don't believe First Premier reports twice a month.  All credit cards report once a month, and sometimes they do what is called a mid cycle update, which is usually because you have put a great big charge on your account and they want to caution other lenders that you might be desperate.  I believe your loan officer is wrong about every two week reporting.  

 

Your loan officer is giving you basically good advice about getting some revolving cards.  You just don't need First Premier.

 

Go the prequalifier now for Capital One and report back to us if it says you are approved for a card.  It will report after the first statement cuts in about 30 days or less.

 

If you are not getting a mortgage till March, that's fine.

 

If you had some existing revolving credit, I would recommend Barclay's because they report new accounts the next day.  But without any revolving cards, they are not likely to approve you.

 

Also, if you can get a Wal-Mart or Lowes card through Synchrony Bank, they tend to report new cards within a couple of days.

 

The every two week reporting is actually not something you want.  You want the new account to report so you get credit for having it.  That's all.  Once the account is open, every two week reporting makes managing that reported balance twice as hard.

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Anonymous
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I was looking to be closed on my house by March, not get my morgage by that time. Unless it is the same thing? I only need 8 points I was told. I am sure I am prequalified, as I get a capital one  pre approval once a week in the mail.

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@Anonymous wrote:

I was looking to be closed on my house by March, not get my morgage by that time. Unless it is the same thing? I only need 8 points I was told. I am sure I am prequalified, as I get a capital one  pre approval once a week in the mail.


Just go to Cap 1, check the preapproval.  If you get a yes, apply for the Platinum and then apply for the Quicksilver One.  Don't even bother with a store card now.  You will get 20 to 30 points increase when those two cards report in a month on the first statement date.

 

You usually buy a house about 30 days before closing, so you would be buying in February, and your cards should be reporting in December if you act now.

 

Just do it and report back.

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StartingOver10
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Ch-7 Rebuilding is right about the credit cards - 3 is optimum but if you are looking for 8 points, just try the Cap One site now. 

 

It may take longer to purchase a home than 30 days because of the new TRID rules that went into effect as of Oct 3 2015.  It slows down the process and for a regular home purchase (without down payment assistance) you are looking at 45 to 60 days now until the lenders and title companies get up to speed with these new rules.  

 

If you are using a special first time homebuyers type program, add more time. Those programs can take months to complete. Each one is different so the LO affliated with the program would need to provide timeline details. 

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takeshi74
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@Anonymous wrote:

My credit score is 634.


You don't have just one score.  There are 3 major CRA's and many FICO models used by creditors (see also the Understanding FICO Scoring subforum and its stickies).  For most models you typically have a score with each CRA.  If you're home shopping you'll specifically want to focus on your mortgage scores.  Always make sure you're aware of the specific scoring model and CRA and not just looking at the numbers.  You also need to pay attention to all 3 CRA's as most mortgage lenders will take the middle score.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

I would like to also note that I am trying to raise my credit,  accomplish recieving a loan as a FHB, search for a house, and buy and close within 5-6 months. So I am trying to do this rather quickly


Building/rebuilding credit is not a quick process and if you're 5-6 months out without any cards then you'll probably need to readjust your timeframe though it seems like your lender isn't concerned about new accounts.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

a couple small deliquencies from utilities years ago(which I am fixing)


You'll want some revolvers but definitely get these addressed as they will hold you back and probably have the biggest impact.  Make sure you carefully research in the Rebuilding subforum.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Is this a bad morgage lender and I should move along? Also remember I am trying to be into my new house by March of 2016.

 


No idea based on the info provided but I am skeptical that you can accomplish this in the timeframe you've set.  Good luck with it.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

I was told I need to get my credit over 640 to qualify for a particular program for a little to no down payment under the FHA program.


That, on the oher hand, may be feasible assuming that both scores you mentioned are the same model.  Were these scores from the mortgage lender and are they your mid score?  We can't tell you how quickly you can gain X points though.  It all depends on your current credit profile and how well you can address the derogs as well as how new tradelines would impact your credit profile.

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