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Neblett
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Re: Pay off Collection?

So getting the REPO status removed from my Ford account and only having to pay 50% of the remaining deficiency on the account doesn't seem like a good deal to you?
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Anonymous
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No that's horrible advice.   If you know it's your's and you have the means, pay it.    While FICO may not care whether it's paid or not, every potential lender does.   If you are looking to buy a house, your mortgage lender will make it a requirement that all unresolved collection accounts GET resolved. 
Lenders look at much more than just your score.   Your score only tells them where you could possibly fall into their interest catagory.   Especially Mortgages they go way beyond you credit score and look at all your accounts.  All payment history including utilities etc. 
 
never mind the fact that is you choose to ignore this collection account, depending on the size of the debt,  they can take you to court and hope you ignore the summons and get a default judgment on you or even if you do answer the summons they can still get a judgment on you if the debt is valid  meaning they can freeze or seize your bank account,  wage garnishment and if applicable put a lien on your property.
Trust me when I say this is more than just your score.   Potential lenders willl look at a Paid collection much more favorable than an outstanding one.   They will think, well he's not paying this off why should we think he would pay our off.
You can try a Pay for Delete but they are difficult to get, if you can't get one, just move on, pay the debt in full.   Don't settle,  settled is viewed by lenders as less favorable the "Paid"   
If the debt is yours and you kno you aren't going to get the dispute in your favor,  PAY IT!!!!   You're looking to buy a house, why mess that up.
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Anonymous
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Well I just called these guys. They said they could not remove it from my report, so I told them I would call them back. It seems by the latest posts that I should just pay it off. I cannot get anyone to even discuss the illegitimacy of this whole collection. But if paying it off will look better to a lender I guess that is all I can do. Thanks for help.
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Anonymous
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I just recently tried for a mortgage and although i can get approved for it, the lender wants all my baddies to be taken care of before they will do it. Although i do agree with New World that fico could care less if you do pay them or not. If i want a Home of my own I have to take care of them.
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Anonymous
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Re: Pay off Collection?

Yes, the lenders do all stick together. I suspect the mortgage bankers get some kickbacks from the other creditors in exchange for making the loan applicant pay off the other debts.
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Anonymous
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Re: Pay off Collection?

Neblett,

 

You can choose to listen to those who appear to be shills for the CAs, if you want. But after you have a paid collection, you are going to curse the day you sent payment. A paid collection won't budge your scores up but maybe a couple of points. It never pays to get a paid collection.

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Anonymous
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Re: Pay off Collection?

dekrist,

 

Did you talk to a bank or a mortgage broker? You can pay and accept paid collections, and yeah, you can get a mortgage based on FICO score from paid collections. Or, you can fight for PFDs, improve your scores, and get a mortgage with better terms. You can always settle for less.

Message 17 of 58
Anonymous
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Re: Pay off Collection?

My sentiments exactly...until the credit scoring system gives me some kind of reward for paying my charge-offs, and collection agencies are barred from the kind of chicanery that previous posters have talked about, I won't pay my charge-offs.
Message 18 of 58
Neblett
Regular Contributor

Re: Pay off Collection?

So when I go to try to get a new auto loan and the unpaid balance to Ford is still on my credit report, and it is re-listed as a repo because I broke the settlement offer, and consequently I'm not able to get a new car loan, what's my benefit?  Seven more years of riding the bus, but smugly content that I showed "the man" or bucked the system?
 
Or is it better to show some intent of good faith to get this taken care of, for the larger goal of repairing my credit?
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Anonymous
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Re: Pay off Collection?

No I am not in shill with the CA, I'm just somebody who has had and still have accounts in Collections.
Now you can listen to some of the poster's who are on a crusade to "stick it to man" and not pay old debts.   That is a very very slippery slope.
Now, Originial Poster,  if you are disputing the debt because you feel it's not yours then YES dispute it and fight it to the very end.   Now if you are disputing it because you are trying to delay, then that is all that is going to do is delay.  Nothing more or less,  the debt is still going to be there.
The Reality is this,  you can do as some of the other "System crusaders" advise and not pay the debt, then you have basically one option,  try to wait out the Statute of Limitations of that debt.   That would depend on your state's SOL, you would have to look that up.   The SOL clock starts ticking on the date of last activity.   Now if you choose that route  you must beware, that depending on the size of the debt, especially if it is over a thousand,  you are running the risk of the CA's taking you to court and try to get a judgment on you before the SOL run's out.    If this is a valid debt against you ,  you are looking at a rough road ahead,  if awarded the Judgment as I stated before,  the Judgment will 
1.   go on your credit report  (if you feel this collection isn't really hurting your score wait until a judgment is on there and then watch it go WAY down the tubes)
2.  They can go after all your assets until the judgment is sastified  meaning your bank account,  stocks,  wage garnishment etc.     Then the ALMIGHTy FICO score is the least of your worries.
 
The reality is this,  its sound like you do owe the debt and do want to pay,  you should if you have the means to pay it full.   As some have offered you can try to get  "Pay for Delete"   but this is very very hard to get and most of the Major CA's wont do it because techincally it is illegal that they have contracts with CRA to report accurate information.  You can try, some have been succesful but it's not an easy fight.   And if you are finding you aren't getting anywhere just bite the bullet and pay the debt off.  
Also as I posted when going to try to get a mortgage, car loan and a personal loan,  they look beyond your FICO.    The unpaid collection account is going to haunt you.  How do I know?   I can't even get a secured credit card from Bank of America because of that.  
People on this board worry soley on just The FICO score and forget to focus on what actually on your report.    If you have the means   do Pay it in full.    No matter what any "System Crusader" may tell you,, Paid always looks better than "Settled".   Lenders will look at a settled ( paid for less than what is owed) as a red flag meaning  " if this happended to them , this could happen to us"    Also you could have to pay taxes on a settled as "income earned"   Oh YES   that is true.  
Now in terms of your  FICO SCORE  it is true that the longer the unpaid collection is on your report the less effect it has on your overall score.   And Yes it's true that even if you PAY the collection off, you may not have a change in your score,   And yes it's true that is will stay on your credit report for 7 years from date of last activity whether it's paid or not.   
It is also TRUE  than lenders  who will be looking at your total Credit Report, not just your score,  will view your paid collection in a MUCH MUCH MUCH more favorable light than unpaid.
Try telling your Mortgage lender that  " Oh yeah  I do have an unpaid collection, but I'm not going to pay it because I want to stick it to the man and ride out the SOL's on the debt"   And see where that will get you.
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