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Bakpack
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Please ... HELP!!!!

Recently, my wife noticed a fraudulent transaction in our primary checking account. This transaction was for the amount of $104.34 and was made by a collection agency. Once she noticed the transaction all deposits ceased resulting in six bounced checks to date.
  When asked how they got her debit card info she said she had made a payment in June over the phone for a medical collection. Per a phone conversation today with a collection agent she was informed that the agency would 1. Return the money which would take one or two days. or 2. They could keep the money and if we provide proof of the bounce fees they would pay those fees.
  We are positive they made this fraudulent transaction because a payment was missed in July. We recieved a letter on August 9th which read.
 
BE ADVISED, WE ARE GOING TO INFORM OUR CLIENT THAT YOU HAVE REFUSED TO PAY. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO CLEAR YOUR CREDIT RECORD WITH OUR CLIENT. TO AVOID THIS ACTION, WE MUST HAVE YOUR PAYMENT IN FULL. TOTAL AMOUNT DUE. $150.35
 
  We recieved the letter before the transaction was made. I've asked my wife to stop all phone conversations with them until I've had a chance to seek your advice. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
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Anonymous
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Bakpack wrote:
Recently, my wife noticed a fraudulent transaction in our primary checking account. This transaction was for the amount of $104.34 and was made by a collection agency. Once she noticed the transaction all deposits ceased resulting in six bounced checks to date.
  When asked how they got her debit card info she said she had made a payment in June over the phone for a medical collection. Per a phone conversation today with a collection agent she was informed that the agency would 1. Return the money which would take one or two days. or 2. They could keep the money and if we provide proof of the bounce fees they would pay those fees.
  We are positive they made this fraudulent transaction because a payment was missed in July. We recieved a letter on August 9th which read.
 
BE ADVISED, WE ARE GOING TO INFORM OUR CLIENT THAT YOU HAVE REFUSED TO PAY. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO CLEAR YOUR CREDIT RECORD WITH OUR CLIENT. TO AVOID THIS ACTION, WE MUST HAVE YOUR PAYMENT IN FULL. TOTAL AMOUNT DUE. $150.35
 
  We recieved the letter before the transaction was made. I've asked my wife to stop all phone conversations with them until I've had a chance to seek your advice. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 



don't wait call your AG office and file a complaint with the FTC  www.ftc.gov
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Anonymous
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I would also ask the Bank to investigate. You may even get them to change your account number.
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Bakpack
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I'm hoping the "transaction" isn't the only law thats been broken here. Wife said the young lady she was talking to on the phone sounded very nervous, and just kept saying "I was told to make the withdrawal."
 Nothing would thrill me more than to teach them a lesson Smiley Mad I'm hoping when this is over this case is used as a collection agency training tool called. "How not to collect a debt"
 
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Anonymous
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I'm wondering if the CA could have done the same kind of thing if you had paid from your checking account by check or by electronic transfer.  The reason I'm wondering is that I sent some previous payments via my checking account (e-transfer) to a credit card for someone that I have recently learned is now past due on their credit card payments.  Is my checking account in jeopardy -- would the credit card issuer be able to take money from my checking account to pay on another person's CC account because I had allowed those previous payments to be sent electronically for that person's account via my checking account, and would a bank permit that to be done?  Do I need to change bank accounts?
 
Can anyone give me an answer on this please?
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Bakpack
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I think I've found it,
 

§ 808.  Unfair practices [15 USC 1692f]

A debt collector may not use unfair or unconscionable means to collect or attempt to collect any debt. Without limiting the general application of the foregoing, the following conduct is a violation of this section:

(1) The collection of any amount (including any interest, fee, charge, or expense incidental to the principal obligation) unless such amount is expressly authorized by the agreement creating the debt or permitted by law.

 

(2) The acceptance by a debt collector from any person of a check or other payment instrument postdated by more than five days unless such person is notified in writing of the debt collector's intent to deposit such check or instrument not more than ten nor less than three business days prior to such deposit.

 

They are in violation of § 808.  (2)

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demitasse03
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This is unbelievable.  I would seek an attorney if I were you!
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Bakpack
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Bump ^ ... in hopes that this is read by Tuscani, or Noah.
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Anonymous
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Well, I'm not Noah or Tuscani -but:
1. Call your bank today and advise them that this was an UNAUTHORIZED withdrawl. If you have a good bank, they will reverse the withdrawl immediately. I used to have an auto loan with Ford and they would always take two payments - I would go down to the bank and fill out a form and the withdrawl would be reversed.
2. Advise your bank that you DO NOT AUTHORIZE this company to make future withdrawls. I would also recommend, for future situations - ALWAYS pay debt collectors with a money order ONLY. That way they do not have any banking information.
3. In regard to your question about making a payment on a friends account - I highly doubt that they would be able to run a payment on your account. When an electronic debit is submitted, the debtor's name is supposed to match the name on the bank account. But again, tell your bank that they are NOT AUTHORIZED to withdraw any monies from your account. However - that certainly wouldn't stop me from checking my account online everyday to make sure neither one of the two are attempting withdrawls.
Hope that helps.
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Bakpack
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Thank you Tex, your advice is appreciated
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