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Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma

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TiggerDat
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Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma

I am a bit confused.  Quizzle says my Vantage score is 676, Sesame 747, and Credit Karma 683 and Vantage of 750.

 

I am confused that Quizzle says that my Vantage is so low.  I have a FICO of 695ish, plus or minus a bit depending on who gave it to me.  I am further confused because my Vantage with CK is 750, which low because of using too many cards.  My high from CK was 798 last year and the low was 733.  (I do have a lot of inquiries, accts less than a year old, etc.)  However, I can't even imagine that Quizzle could be saying my Vantage is actually 676.  If it were my TU score I could understand.  Is this just an issue with CK calling it the Vantage score and it really is a TU score?

 

Credit Sesame doesn't say if their scoer is Vantage or the Experian Score, while it only goes up to 850 it does appear like they are using the Vantage score but with the wrong guidelines.  Unless it is some proprietary score they themselves use. 

 

If I add in my credit expert score, then that has stayed at a steady 717 for the last few months. 

 

While I don't rely on CK, CS, or Quizzle much, except for trending I have a hard time believing that my Vantage is so low with Quizzle.  I could understand upto a 20 point difference but not a 75 point difference.  Of all three I find that CK is the better, even if CS does tell me I have Excellent Credit.  (I do know this is simply not the case!)

 

Anyone else want to share their feelings about the 3?

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Creditaddict
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Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma

Use these services for monitoring of new pulls, cli that you may not know or baddies showing up... That's it in my opinion!

 

I don't care about the score, what things it says I'm doing wrong or right!!!

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grinlikechelsea
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Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma

I like Credit Karma because it alerts me of pulls, CLIs, and relevant account information (utilization!) that I may not know. It has been helpful.

 

Plus, I like the data points for approvals on the credit cards. That is a good asset to have when you research which card(s) to apply for. Smiley Happy

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CreditUnionFan
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Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma

Quizzle just changed their source report to Equifax...  and since they only update twice a year, I count on my DCU for the EQ FICO.

 

Credit Sesame has been broken for months for me - a score of N/A. So, they're useless except for tracking when items post to the EX.

 

Credit Karma...  well, their scoring model doesn't know what to do with me, but the activity alerts are nice.

 

Anything that's a "FAKO" is an educational tool, but shouldn't be taken as gospel.

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Rhaeny
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Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma


@grinlikechelsea wrote:

I like Credit Karma because it alerts me of pulls, CLIs, and relevant account information (utilization!) that I may not know. It has been helpful.

 

Plus, I like the data points for approvals on the credit cards. That is a good asset to have when you research which card(s) to apply for. Smiley Happy


All of that is marketing mumbo jumbo geared to get you to apply.  A marketer gets paid when you apply whether you get approved or not.

 

Those scores are FAKO's anyway so how could they possibly be reliable to give you a recommendation for which card to apply for?

 

 

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awiser
Regular Contributor

Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma

I use these services as a guide, and pay little attention to the actual scores.  They each have their pros and cons; ex: CK doesn't show closed accounts so it shows a misrepresentation of my actual credit age. They're not FICO's scores, so I focus on the advice and alerts.


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grinlikechelsea
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Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma


@Rhaeny wrote:

@grinlikechelsea wrote:

I like Credit Karma because it alerts me of pulls, CLIs, and relevant account information (utilization!) that I may not know. It has been helpful.

 

Plus, I like the data points for approvals on the credit cards. That is a good asset to have when you research which card(s) to apply for. Smiley Happy


All of that is marketing mumbo jumbo geared to get you to apply.  A marketer gets paid when you apply whether you get approved or not.

 

Those scores are FAKO's anyway so how could they possibly be reliable to give you a recommendation for which card to apply for?

 

 


The reviews are marketing mumbo jumbo? I never apply through CK'S links; I see if there's a good sign up bonus elsewhere on the web if my profile seems to reasonably compare to other holders of the card through CK and credit pull databases. I know its a FAKO, but it gives me a decent range of where I'm at in terms of my overall profile. For example, I can see the impact of a new account, high utilization, low AAoA on my report.

 

That's how I use it anyways.

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cashnocredit
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Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma

Quizzle uses a very modern scoring technique, VantageScore 3.0.  It's a serious score that is increasingly getting attention by creditors but is still way below the market share of FICO scores. It incorporates payment data as well as balance data and will ding you a lot if you are not paying well above the mins. On the positive side, unlike FICO and every other score, VS3.0 completely ignores paid collection accounts. This, together with other differences is why VantageScore can easily vary a huge amount. Not only from FICO scores but FAKO's as well.

 

These are some of the big differences it has with FICO scores though I expect the payment info to be a factor in the newly revised FICO score expected to be released later this year. This data is highly risk predictive based on the banking blog at www.FICO.com   FICO currently sells custom solutions that incorporate this data to lenders (not to us though)  but it is not yet a part of FICO scores.

 

 


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JLK93
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Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma


@bernhardtra wrote:

I am a bit confused.  Quizzle says my Vantage score is 676, Sesame 747, and Credit Karma 683 and Vantage of 750.

 

Credit Sesame is based on Experian

Quizzle is your Vantage Score 3.0 for Equifax

Credit Karma score is for Transunion

Credid Karma Vantage Score is 2.0 for Transunion

 

They are all different scoring systems for different credit bureaus. That is why they are all different.

 

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takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: Quizzle, Sesame, and Karma


@bernhardtra wrote:

Anyone else want to share their feelings about the 3?


Nothing more than what has been said in other threads on the topic of FAKO's versus FICO's, different models and different sources/report dates.  All can lead to differences in scoring.  Not sure why you think there's only up to a 20 point difference possible.  Difference can certainly be much greater especially if various factors are compounded.

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