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Tmyers
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Repo vs Forclosure

I know they are essentially similar. However my regular experian report shows my Repo as a VS (voluntary surrender) because that is what it was. However, my myFICO experian report shows my VS/Repo as a "FC". Is it the same?

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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Repo vs Forclosure

Sorry, but a repo is a repo. Being voluntary has no impact on it's reporting or effects. They might put a note that it was voluntary, but again, doesn't change that the vehicle was taken back by the lienholder. 

    
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Tmyers
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Re: Repo vs Forclosure


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

Sorry, but a repo is a repo. Being voluntary has no impact on it's reporting or effects. They might put a note that it was voluntary, but again, doesn't change that the vehicle was taken back by the lienholder. 


I understand  that however, that was not my question. The repo is marked as a Forclosure and not repo. My question was whether or not myFICO uses the same terminology for all three. Instead of having it show as a "R or VS" like it does on my experian stand alone report, does myFICO use FC (foreclosure) to represent a repo. 

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GZG
Senior Contributor

Re: Repo vs Forclosure


@Tmyers wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

Sorry, but a repo is a repo. Being voluntary has no impact on it's reporting or effects. They might put a note that it was voluntary, but again, doesn't change that the vehicle was taken back by the lienholder. 


I understand  that however, that was not my question. The repo is marked as a Forclosure and not repo. My question was whether or not myFICO uses the same terminology for all three. Instead of having it show as a "R or VS" like it does on my experian stand alone report, does myFICO use FC (foreclosure) to represent a repo. 


you should check how it's reporting on your actual reports: https://www.annualcreditreport.com

 

myFICO is merely grabbing the data from the reports and showing it to you, they aren't the ones holding the data, so they could be showing it inaccurately 

 

I'm not sure if FCRA requires them to report VS vs. Repo specifically, I feel like it should, but that's definitely worth looking into if they are reporting Repo when it is a VS.

 

I agree with above that FICO wise, it probably doesn't make a difference in scoring between the two, but for manual underwriting it might, so having that reflect accurately might help. It might also hurt your score to have the tradeline last activity date be updated, so that's worth considering as well. 

 

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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Repo vs Forclosure


@Tmyers wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

Sorry, but a repo is a repo. Being voluntary has no impact on it's reporting or effects. They might put a note that it was voluntary, but again, doesn't change that the vehicle was taken back by the lienholder. 


I understand  that however, that was not my question. The repo is marked as a Forclosure and not repo. My question was whether or not myFICO uses the same terminology for all three. Instead of having it show as a "R or VS" like it does on my experian stand alone report, does myFICO use FC (foreclosure) to represent a repo. 


Foreclosure just means the lender took back the property and is attempting to recover its losses by selling the asset. It's what a repo is. So it doesn't matter if it says repo, voluntary repo, or foreclosure. They are all the same thing. People tend to attach repo to autos and foreclosures to homes, but they're interchangeable. You can reposses a home and foreclose on an auto loan. 

    
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AndySoCal
Senior Contributor

Re: Repo vs Forclosure

@Tmyers  When you voluntarily surrended the vehicle had the repopossion process started or not?

All,

Sometimes a consumer will voluntarily surrender a car knowing their financial circumstances and by doing so not having the car repossesed. Yes the consumer may or may behind on their loan payments.

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Tmyers
Established Member

Re: Repo vs Forclosure


@AndySoCal wrote:

@Tmyers  When you voluntarily surrended the vehicle had the repopossion process started or not?

All,

Sometimes a consumer will voluntarily surrender a car knowing their financial circumstances and by doing so not having the car repossesed. Yes the consumer may or may behind on their loan payments.


No it has not, I was only a month late. 


@AndySoCal wrote:

@Tmyers  When you voluntarily surrended the vehicle had the repopossion process started or not?

All,

Sometimes a consumer will voluntarily surrender a car knowing their financial circumstances and by doing so not having the car repossesed. Yes the consumer may or may behind on their loan payments.


 

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Tmyers
Established Member

Re: Repo vs Forclosure


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

@Tmyers wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

Sorry, but a repo is a repo. Being voluntary has no impact on it's reporting or effects. They might put a note that it was voluntary, but again, doesn't change that the vehicle was taken back by the lienholder. 


I understand  that however, that was not my question. The repo is marked as a Forclosure and not repo. My question was whether or not myFICO uses the same terminology for all three. Instead of having it show as a "R or VS" like it does on my experian stand alone report, does myFICO use FC (foreclosure) to represent a repo. 


Foreclosure just means the lender took back the property and is attempting to recover its losses by selling the asset. It's what a repo is. So it doesn't matter if it says repo, voluntary repo, or foreclosure. They are all the same thing. People tend to attach repo to autos and foreclosures to homes, but they're interchangeable. You can reposses a home and foreclose on an auto loan. 


Okay this is what I was needing clarification on. Thank you!

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AndySoCal
Senior Contributor

Re: Repo vs Forclosure

@Tmyers  On the real Experian credit report (Not My FICO) what is the payment history that it is showing? From you last post their should be a 30 day late if there is any payment history at all.  I do not know what that FC stands for I looked at the post on how read a credit report. The FC is not in that post.

 

ALL

The difference between a voluntary surrender and a repossesion.

 

https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/difference-between-a-voluntary-surrender-and-repossessio... 

 

The difference between Deed in Lieu and a Foreclosure

 

https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/deed-in-lieu 

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Tmyers
Established Member

Re: Repo vs Forclosure


@AndySoCal wrote:

@Tmyers  On the real Experian credit report (Not My FICO) what is the payment history that it is showing? From you last post their should be a 30 day late if there is any payment history at all.  I do not know what that FC stands for I looked at the post on how read a credit report. The FC is not in that post.

 

ALL

The difference between a voluntary surrender and a repossesion.

 

https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/difference-between-a-voluntary-surrender-and-repossessio... 

 

The difference between Deed in Lieu and a Foreclosure

 

https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/deed-in-lieu 


The real experian is showing a "VS" and then immediately after shows the repo as a charge off the  next month when they sold car.

 

on my FICO credit report legend it says FC means foreclosure

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