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Should I backdate Amex with a pending mortgage?

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bspitt
Valued Member

Should I backdate Amex with a pending mortgage?

Back in late 2006 my first card was a Amex Delta Platinum card along with a Amex gold. I was late on two payments in early 2008 and due to the credit crunch, Amex decided to close the account. Fast forward to today and my credit situation is much stronger. Here are my stats:

 

myFICO: 696

CK TU: 728

 

Cap1 $0 balance/$1000 limit

Barclays $0 balance/$2400 limit

BofA $320 balance/$4200 limit

Total utilization 4%

 

AAoA 5 yrs 5 months

oldest account 8 years 

 

1 inquiry in the past two years (initial mortgage pull)

 

Several student loans

 

Baddies: 1 30 day late payment 11 months ago, 4 60 day lates over 2 years ago (one late payment to fedloan over 4 student loans). 

 

Income: $126k

 

So the situation is that having the added credit limit and another TL dating back to 2006 would be great. My mortgage broker told me that it would be a great idea and that I should go for it. I have heard a lot of information from other people saying that opening any new lines of credit during the mortgage process is a red flag and should be avoided. My main goal is to get my scores above 700 to get the next drop in mortgage rates, but I would also like to get into the Amex family again as it is a personal credit goal. So is it worth it to get my Amex back right now?

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09Lexie
Moderator Emerita

Re: Should I backdate Amex with a pending mortgage?


@bspitt wrote:

Back in late 2006 my first card was a Amex Delta Platinum card along with a Amex gold. I was late on two payments in early 2008 and due to the credit crunch, Amex decided to close the account. Fast forward to today and my credit situation is much stronger. Here are my stats:

 

myFICO: 696

CK TU: 728

 

Cap1 $0 balance/$1000 limit

Barclays $0 balance/$2400 limit

BofA $320 balance/$4200 limit

Total utilization 4%

 

AAoA 5 yrs 5 months

oldest account 8 years 

 

1 inquiry in the past two years (initial mortgage pull)

 

Several student loans

 

Baddies: 1 30 day late payment 11 months ago, 4 60 day lates over 2 years ago (one late payment to fedloan over 4 student loans). 

 

Income: $126k

 

So the situation is that having the added credit limit and another TL dating back to 2006 would be great. My mortgage broker told me that it would be a great idea and that I should go for it. I have heard a lot of information from other people saying that opening any new lines of credit during the mortgage process is a red flag and should be avoided. My main goal is to get my scores above 700 to get the next drop in mortgage rates, but I would also like to get into the Amex family again as it is a personal credit goal. So is it worth it to get my Amex back right now?


Any UW will be able to see that the Amex is a new account under manual review. I'd suggest working on those baddies to get your score up. 

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Should I backdate Amex with a pending mortgage?

Not likely to help and as Lexie states an underwriter is going to look at that one curiously and perhaps not to your benefit; additionally, you already have a very solid AAoA and you're unlikely to get a bump in score by adding a 8 year tradeline, anything over 5 years is sort of a wash because of diminishing returns in the algorithm.  

 

You have an incredibly close to optimal if not outright optimal balance reporting scenario, the lates are what hurting as what Lexie suggests.  Your math if you need it to get across a 700 boundary or whatever is attempting to get those removed or to let time pass, otherwise you are solid.

 




        
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bspitt
Valued Member

Re: Should I backdate Amex with a pending mortgage?

Yeah. I was leaning in that direction myself. As for the lates, the 30 day is from CapOne and I have been goodwilling them for months to no avail. That late was due to thinking that auto pay was set up when it hadnt (obviously my fault) and they seemed not to really be motivated to help out. I am also working on GW letter for Fedloan. Ill let you guys know how that goes. 

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takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: Should I backdate Amex with a pending mortgage?


@bspitt wrote:

My mortgage broker told me that it would be a great idea and that I should go for it. I have heard a lot of information from other people saying that opening any new lines of credit during the mortgage process is a red flag and should be avoided.


Your mortgage lender is really the one that matters here but I'd +1 the comments above.  It would be pretty obvious that the account was new despite the backdating.  Even if it did report as 8 years old how much of an increase would you see?  Also consider that AAoA is only 15%:

http://www.myfico.com/crediteducation/whatsinyourscore.aspx

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