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Simulator pay down revolving test

There is another thread about the simulator and paying down installment loans.  I don't have student loans so I have no option to pay those down in my simulator nor do I have an option to pay down my auto loan.  There is a lot of skepticism towards the simulator, maybe this will help.

 

I am running 8% utilization with 3199/40750.  I only have 3 cards. Balance is on one card at this time for testing purposes, screenshot from CCT

 

 

I used the simulator slide tool to figure out how much to pay down to maximize all 3 scores.

I have fresh reports so the only change will be paying down ~1850 of 3199

My statement cuts today or tomorrow, so I should have datapoints within the week.

 

Simulator Projection

EQ 723 -> 738

TU 739 -> 739

EX 725 -> 730

 

 

 

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NRB525
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Re: Simulator pay down revolving test

Ok, some more potentially relevant factors to document as you start this:

 

Which three CC do you have, and what month/year was each opened?

What is the CL and open balance on each?

What is your expected timing to pay down the cards?

How will each card open balance be changed to achieve your overal utilization reduction?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Simulator pay down revolving test

As stated above, all of my balance is on a single card for testing purposes

In addition to testing the accuracy of the simulator, this will show taking <10% overall utilization on a single card with the rest a 0% to <10% of the highest cards limit on that card with the rest at 0%

 

Oldest account is 18 years, AAoA is 8 years

 

The true open dates are nebulus as each of these has at some point in time "closed" the prior account at "consumer's request" and then started over the same month with new account numbers, some of which have fallen off my report as closed accounts and I have no idea why it was this way

 

For the purposes of this test I'll use the dates on the report

Cap One Platinum         2/2006  (I think originally this started in 97 or 98)

USAA AMEX                 2/2007  (Pretty sure this is the actual date on this one as its also the "member since" date)

BOA M/C                      10/2007 (Previously an MBNA card from 1996)

 

Cap One Platinum         0/8250

USAA AMEX                 3199/19400 16.5% utilization on this card, 8% overall

BOA                              0/13100

 

USAA AMEX                 3199 -> 1299 plus whatever small finance charges I may have for the last month

 

Statement date is today or tomorrow, no other changes "expected," so this should be a good datapoint.

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NRB525
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Re: Simulator pay down revolving test

Ok, clear. These accounts are aged long enough that won't be a factor.

Interesting to see the results.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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NRB525
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Re: Simulator pay down revolving test


@Anonymous wrote:

As stated above, all of my balance is on a single card for testing purposes

In addition to testing the accuracy of the simulator, this will show taking <10% overall utilization on a single card with the rest a 0% to <10% of the highest cards limit on that card with the rest at 0%

 

Oldest account is 18 years, AAoA is 8 years

 

The true open dates are nebulus as each of these has at some point in time "closed" the prior account at "consumer's request" and then started over the same month with new account numbers, some of which have fallen off my report as closed accounts and I have no idea why it was this way

 

For the purposes of this test I'll use the dates on the report

Cap One Platinum         2/2006  (I think originally this started in 97 or 98)

USAA AMEX                 2/2007  (Pretty sure this is the actual date on this one as its also the "member since" date)

BOA M/C                      10/2007 (Previously an MBNA card from 1996)

 

Cap One Platinum         0/8250

USAA AMEX                 3199/19400 16.5% utilization on this card, 8% overall

BOA                              0/13100

 

USAA AMEX                 3199 -> 1299 plus whatever small finance charges I may have for the last month

 

Statement date is today or tomorrow, no other changes "expected," so this should be a good datapoint.


While we wait, I have a question. With cards aged this much, and utilization this low, do you know why your scores are not even above 750 already?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Simulator pay down revolving test


@NRB525 wrote:


While we wait, I have a question. With cards aged this much, and utilization this low, do you know why your scores are not even above 750 already?


It appears I'm at the top of my scorecard/bucket due to tax liens. Smiley Frustrated

I'll start or join a thread about tax liens one day. Smiley Mad

I should be able to get withdrawals shortly after October 15. Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
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Credit Check Total is very fast with updates from Experian.

Statement cut last night and the first indicators are in...

A small charge and small finance fee resulted in balance taken to 1340/40750 which is 3% and a reduction of $1859

 

EX 08 725 -> 728

 

Should see the myFICO updates in the next few days

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Anonymous
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 I also did a little simulator test.  When I paid off the indicated amounts on my credti cards, my scores rose to within 3-4 points of what the simulator stated it would.  Good luck!

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Anonymous
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EQ showed up today...

I thought the simulator was optimistic on EQ, but I was hopeful!

EQ 723 -> 735

 

Here's a comparison of all EQ scores before and after.

This shows that the simulator might be good for FICO 8 scores, but it may not be good for 04 Scores.

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Simulator pay down revolving test

TU finally reported balance change  today.

No change in score as predicted by the simulator.

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