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Unactivated card dropped off after FIVE years

In September, 2010, I applied for a Sears card to get a discount on some tools I wanted to buy. However, I was only approved for $250 and I was buying $1000 worth of tools, so I closed the card without activating it and used a card that could actually handle the transaction. That unactivated card just disappeared off of my credit reports. I thought that it would stay for 10 years, so I'm a little confused as to why it disappeared now. Maybe unactivated cards only get five years? Or has the policy changed?

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
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Re: Unactivated card dropped off after FIVE years


@Anonymous wrote:

In September, 2010, I applied for a Sears card to get a discount on some tools I wanted to buy. However, I was only approved for $250 and I was buying $1000 worth of tools, so I closed the card without activating it and used a card that could actually handle the transaction. That unactivated card just disappeared off of my credit reports. I thought that it would stay for 10 years, so I'm a little confused as to why it disappeared now. Maybe unactivated cards only get five years? Or has the policy changed?


Sounds like Sears was cleaning up their database.

 

Positive tradelines can stay for up to 10 years (or longer), but there is no requirement that they stay at all.  I have see two reports of First Premier actually immediately delete a positive tradeline when the consumer paid it and closed it at consumer request.  Sounds rather vindictive to me.

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Anonymous
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Re: Unactivated card dropped off after FIVE years

The thing that still seems strange is why Sears would go out of their way to delete it.  If it were the case that accounts only stay on as long as the creditor continues to report them, then that would make sense.  A creditor could do some internal housekeeping, purge a lot of old closed records, and then stop reporting them.

 

But closed records do not need the continued reporting of the original creditor to stay on.  In fact most often you close the account, the creditor reports it as closed a month later, and then there may never be a further update from that creditor -- and yet the record stays on for 10 years.

 

So it would seem that Sears went out of its way to delete the record.  I wonder why they'd do that.

 

To the OP: if you are really curious, I can't see how it would hurt to give Sears a call and ask them what happened. 

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gdale6
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Re: Unactivated card dropped off after FIVE years

EX is the only CRA that will typically hold a closed positive account the whole 10 years and sometimes even longer, the other 2 drop at least for me 3-5 years after closure.

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Anonymous
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Re: Unactivated card dropped off after FIVE years

Hi GDale6. The curious thing is that all three CRAs (including EX) dropped the account at exactly the same time, which sounds like it was some action on the part of the original creditor.

 

My experience is slightly different from yours, btw.  All three CRAs equally keep my closed accounts on for a really long time -- often for exactly ten years but sometimes longer.  On the other hand I'll admit to not having a lot of experience with closed cards (more with closed loans).

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RobertEG
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Re: Unactivated card dropped off after FIVE years

Any party who has reported information to a CRA assumes the statutory obligation under FCRA 623(a)(2) to promptly update that information as may be necessary to maintain its current accuracy.  They also are required to investigate disputes over the accuracy of that reporting should teh consumer choose to do so.

An account that was never used is clearly an obvious candidate to no longer monitor for any changes or to include in any reporriing.

 

For those and other internal housekeeping reasons, a creditor might choose to rid themselves of any continuing obligations regarding reporting informtion, and simply delete all reporting.

Credit reporting is totally voluntary in and of itself, and thus deletion of any reporting is always an option available to a creditor who wishes to remove any obligations on their part resulting from having information on file with a CRA.

 

CRAs choose to do their own housekeeping by deletion, and arbitrarily choose approx ten years after closing under the assumption that parties no longer have any interest in accounts that old.  That ignores the affect on consumer average age of accunts and oldest account, but the CRAs are not concerned with such impacts.

 

Deletions by either creditors or CRAs thus can impact scoring, but that does not make it improper.

 

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Unactivated card dropped off after FIVE years


@Anonymous wrote:

In September, 2010, I applied for a Sears card to get a discount on some tools I wanted to buy. However, I was only approved for $250 and I was buying $1000 worth of tools, so I closed the card without activating it and used a card that could actually handle the transaction. That unactivated card just disappeared off of my credit reports. I thought that it would stay for 10 years, so I'm a little confused as to why it disappeared now. Maybe unactivated cards only get five years? Or has the policy changed?


I had a store card that was closed in 10/2009. As of 10/2015 payment history no longer shows on my Equifax report although the card is still listed. Now I get reason codes about cards with no payment history. A 2nd card that was closed in June 2005, Chase Visa, is still listed on my report as well without any associated information. It also is flagged as showing no payment history - it used to have that info [worse, this card no longer counts toward AAoA].

 

LexisNexis, which puills data from Equifax for calculating credit based insurance scores, hammered my score because of these "no payment histories". I would like both cards to disappear completely from my Equifax report.

 

I think you are better off without the card showing than having a closed one on file with no payment history.

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