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Utilization ...friends problem. ;/

hey guys a quick question my buddy has a problem with his credit cards well he's in dept. he owes 6500 dollars to a Wells Fargo credit card limit was 10,000 but reduced him to 6,700. he has two other cards that are in Macys and American Express basically is two in one. He has a 650 score, 1 inquiry, 100% on time payments, age is 2 years and 7 months...whats the best route to deal with his wells fargo credit crd.?.. Utilization is whats killing him and holding him back from being in the 700s . we looked into ersonal loan or debt consolidation with nfcu... Basically whats holding himoff is the interest... He has a 17% interest with wells fargo... Max interestwith nfcu is 18 ... ... He was hesitant to make a decision and he is thinking about it...i say go for it that way his credit cards will. Show 0 balance.. Plus he will have an installment. Loan thats a plus on his report isnt?. Other route would be. Balance transfer... But he needs a starting limit of basically 7,000. ..amex might be but what if he doesnt get that limit... Any suggestion.. U guys might have would be really appreciated
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Luscher
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Re: friens having an issue. :/

The best option would have him BT the debt to a 0% card. But idk if he will be able to get approved for one. Hopefully somebody else can recommend a card
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Anonymous
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Re: friens having an issue. :/

ThNks
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-Cal-
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Re: friens having an issue. :/

Have him see if he's prequalified for the Chase Slate card on chase's website. 

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NRB525
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Re: friens having an issue. :/

How large a monthly payment is he prepared to make? The interest is $95-$100 per month, and will come down fast if he can make large payments. The CLD by WF is probably the result of them getting spooked by how he charged up the card, and I presume he is carrying that as a balance? Is he making only minimum payments each month? Because on that balance minimum payments is a red flag for AA.

 

Basically, the current situation is a wake up call that he needs to pay down the balance as fast as he can. With the open balance, it might be a stretch to get a decent size limit on any new card, so it may be possible to get a BT card like Slate, but paying down the balance is still job #1, even if a new card is obtained.

 

Paying $500 per month will bring that down by $3k in 6 months. $250 brings it down by $3k in a year, and even if a new card is obtained, this is the kind of payment pace that will be necessary to avoid the same issue surfacing again in 12-15 months if the balances remain in place. Bringing down the balance lowers the monthly interest cost, right now, and opens the possibility for other cards, and those large payments also gives WF some positive news.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: friens having an issue. :/


@NRB525 wrote:

How large a monthly payment is he prepared to make? The interest is $95-$100 per month, and will come down fast if he can make large payments. The CLD by WF is probably the result of them getting spooked by how he charged up the card, and I presume he is carrying that as a balance? Is he making only minimum payments each month? Because on that balance minimum payments is a red flag for AA.

 

Basically, the current situation is a wake up call that he needs to pay down the balance as fast as he can. With the open balance, it might be a stretch to get a decent size limit on any new card, so it may be possible to get a BT card like Slate, but paying down the balance is still job #1, even if a new card is obtained.

 

Paying $500 per month will bring that down by $3k in 6 months. $250 brings it down by $3k in a year, and even if a new card is obtained, this is the kind of payment pace that will be necessary to avoid the same issue surfacing again in 12-15 months if the balances remain in place. Bringing down the balance lowers the monthly interest cost, right now, and opens the possibility for other cards, and those large payments also gives WF some positive news.


^^^^^This

Unfortunately, usually the best way to do something is the hard way. Cut spending where they can and pay more toward this card or find a way to make some extra income to pay it off quicker. Sell something that they don't need to generate some funds to pay this down. If your friend had this at 65% utilization before the credit line dropped that isn't good and it is a good indicator that your friend may start using this card again even if it is paid off with an installment loan, then your friend would be in twice the trouble they are now.

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Anonymous
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Re: friens having an issue. :/

Thbks cal and nrb525....

Yes he makes minimum payments of 157 a month he would do more but child support is killing him... Im going to tell him about chase slate.... But since he had a freedom card few years ago and. I think he closed it im not pretty sure what was the situation with the freedom....would that affect. His chances.?...
So basically no on the debt consolidation ?? I thought that would become as an installment...?
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jamesdwi
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@Anonymous wrote:
hey guys a quick question my buddy has a problem with his credit cards well he's in dept. he owes 6500 dollars to a Wells Fargo credit card limit was 10,000 but reduced him to 6,700. he has two other cards that are in Macys and American Express basically is two in one. He has a 650 score, 1 inquiry, 100% on time payments, age is 2 years and 7 months...whats the best route to deal with his wells fargo credit crd.?.. Utilization is whats killing him and holding him back from being in the 700s . we looked into ersonal loan or debt consolidation with nfcu... Basically whats holding himoff is the interest... He has a 17% interest with wells fargo... Max interestwith nfcu is 18 ... ... He was hesitant to make a decision and he is thinking about it...i say go for it that way his credit cards will. Show 0 balance.. Plus he will have an installment. Loan thats a plus on his report isnt?. Other route would be. Balance transfer... But he needs a starting limit of basically 7,000. ..amex might be but what if he doesnt get that limit... Any suggestion.. U guys might have would be really appreciated

is he a NFCU member? if so try and get a card, you may want to do some accounting magic, make a large payment on the WF card even if it just goes onto another card, to improve his score some, AP for an NFCU product hopefully they will give him something in the 10k range if not, even a 5k card will give him some breathing room on the WF card. better to have 2x cards at 50% UTL than one card at 95%. 




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NRB525
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Re: friens having an issue. :/


@Anonymous wrote:
Thbks cal and nrb525....

Yes he makes minimum payments of 157 a month he would do more but child support is killing him... Im going to tell him about chase slate.... But since he had a freedom card few years ago and. I think he closed it im not pretty sure what was the situation with the freedom....would that affect. His chances.?...
So basically no on the debt consolidation ?? I thought that would become as an installment...?

I've been there with the child support thing, it's not easy, but it is possible.

 

Yes, he should apply for the Slate, because until one does the actual application to the CCC, all the talk here is just speculation. Just be aware that the limit may not take over the whole balance. Having the Freedom in the past, even though closed, will be a positive as long as it was closed with no lates or charge offs by Chase. Any amount that the Slate provides will be a help to reduce the interest cost overall.

 

Cutting back on non-essentials (Starbucks counts as non-essential, buying soda pop is non essential, water can be free), taking a sack lunch to work, and finding ways to limit spending (I used a weekly grocery flyer $5 off for spending $50 recently), will enable larger payments on the card. At the same time, it is important to find low-cost ways to spend time with the kid(s) so that these years when they are growing up are filled with good memories. Hopefully the current balance on the card went to vital expenses, and in that case the monthly interest is just a cost of money. You can also check with a local credit union about getting lower interest, perhaps a CC from them.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Jesse3581
Established Member

Re: friens having an issue. :/

I would do a combination of applying for slate and definitely getting the spending under control. If denied for the slate, move on to another 0% card. No use in "saving" hard pulls when the situation is dire. Even if he can only get $1000 starting limit, it can be recon ed and every bit helps.

The more important thing is doing everything to get that balance under control. Cancel cable, is the lease up soon? Move somewhere cheaper. Become an Uber driver.
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