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What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

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fury1995
Valued Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@cashorcharge wrote:

The MyFICO affect is real. It is easy to get sucked into "oh look at that approval....wonder how I would do" and then it starts. 

With over $1M, I may never use it all but it's nice to know that I can if I need and I always figured applying when I didn't need it was easier than if I did


That's the phrase I remember!

 

"It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it"

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

 


@fury1995 wrote:

@acercode wrote:

I often see people with $100k+ credit lines and wondering what's the reason for it. I mean they never use them all and if they do, their accounts get shutdown or severedly reduced. So what's the purpose of it, is it just in case of an emergency or is it just part of the credit/FICO game?

 


Because no matter how high your largest credit limit is, this never goes away, lol

 

"Your largest credit limit on open bankcard or credit card accounts is too low"


Never seen that statement. It was not a reason code on the full list of reason statements published for Fico 8. Curious, what summary report and credit model shows it?

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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fury1995
Valued Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

 


@fury1995 wrote:

@acercode wrote:

I often see people with $100k+ credit lines and wondering what's the reason for it. I mean they never use them all and if they do, their accounts get shutdown or severedly reduced. So what's the purpose of it, is it just in case of an emergency or is it just part of the credit/FICO game?

 

 


Because no matter how high your largest credit limit is, this never goes away, lol

 

"Your largest credit limit on open bankcard or credit card accounts is too low"


Never seen that statement. It was not a reason code on the full list of reason statements published for Fico 8. Curious, what summary report and credit model shows it?


It's not. It shows on Vantage Reports, which you and I know is provided by so many credit issuers for free so it's "always in your face".

August 28, 2023 FICO 8

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markbeiser
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Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

I'm single with no kids, or anyone else for creditors to go after when I'm dead, so having a huge pool of available credit could fund one heck of a "Bucket List" frenzy If I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal illness and have only weeks/months to live!🤪

Back to gardening until Late February 2026.
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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@fury1995 wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

 


@fury1995 wrote:

Because no matter how high your largest credit limit is, this never goes away, lol

 

"Your largest credit limit on open bankcard or credit card accounts is too low"


Never seen that statement. It was not a reason code on the full list of reason statements published for Fico 8. Curious, what summary report and credit model shows it?


It's not. It shows on Vantage Reports, which you and I know is provided by so many credit issuers for free so it's "always in your face"


I am suspecting it came from Credit Karma 3rd party software as opposed to direct from VS. [edit - it is direct from VS].

CK is in the credit card sales business. I particularly liked CKs rating of profiles for # of accounts/cards. As I recall you need 21 or more accounts for an excellent rating. When I dropped from 11 to 10 accounts, my rating changed to poor from good.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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fury1995
Valued Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@fury1995 wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

 


@fury1995 wrote:

@acercode wrote:

I often see people with $100k+ credit lines and wondering what's the reason for it. I mean they never use them all and if they do, their accounts get shutdown or severedly reduced. So what's the purpose of it, is it just in case of an emergency or is it just part of the credit/FICO game?

 

 


Because no matter how high your largest credit limit is, this never goes away, lol

 

"Your largest credit limit on open bankcard or credit card accounts is too low"


Never seen that statement. It was not a reason code on the full list of reason statements published for Fico 8. Curious, what summary report and credit model shows it?


It's not. It shows on Vantage Reports, which you and I know is provided by so many credit issuers for free so it's "always in your face".


I am suspecting it came from Credit Karma 3rd party software as opposed to direct from VS. CK is in the credit card sales after all.


These comments/factors are from Vantage 3.0. Vantage 4.0 does not show the same comments/factors. Nasa provides VS 4.0 and they aren't present. I've provided screen shots directly from the myEquifax credit score summary, Credit Journey from Chase VS 3.0 Experian, Credit Wise from Cap One Transunion VS 3.0, Credit View Transunion VS 3.0 from BMO Harris Bank and directly from Transunion VS 3.0 .. so all three providers of Vantage 3.0.

 

Equifax Vantage Score 3.0 provided by myEquifax login

Equifax Vantage Score 3.0.png

 

 

Experian Vantage Score 3.0 provided by Credit Journey from Chase:

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Transunion Vantage Score 3.0 provided by Transunion:

Transunion Vantage Score 3.0 Direct.png

 

Transunion Vantage Score 3.0 provided by Credit Wise from Capital One:

Transunion Vantage Score 3.0.png

Transunion Vantage Scrore 3.0 provided by CXredit View from BMO Harris Bank

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August 28, 2023 FICO 8

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August 28, 2023 FICO Auto 8

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Gunnerboy
Established Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

I agree with many comments posted. Especially, about the "fun" part, and the "MyFico Effect" being real.

 

I am an enthusiast in other hobbies, and frequent those forums. Everywhere is about experimenting, optimization, knowing limits. Same applies here at MyFico.

 

For me, earning high limits is simply affirmation of credit resposibility. I don't speak for others, but I also feel better traveling with a card with a high-limit vs a low-limit.



"Not everyone who helps you is a friend, and not everyone who challenges you is an enemy."
Message 17 of 32
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@acercode wrote:

I often see people with $100k+ credit lines and wondering what's the reason for it. I mean they never use them all and if they do, their accounts get shutdown or severedly reduced. So what's the purpose of it, is it just in case of an emergency or is it just part of the credit/FICO game?

 

 


Using most or all of one's credit limit is a dangerous game; it is much safer to 'have a high credit limit and never use it'.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

@fury1995 

That's quite interesting.

I have not checked my VS scores since 2021. I never saw that type of notification. My highest card limit was $34.9k. Perhaps other factors were higher on the list for my profile such as: too few revolving accounts, too few installment loan accounts and # of accounts with balances.

 

See the below link for a complete list of VS2, VS3 and VS4 reason codes from the officially VantageScore sanctioned web site.

https://www.reasoncode.org/allcodes/

 

OP ... sorry for taking the thread off topic - I'll stop now.

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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fury1995
Valued Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@fury1995 

That's quite interesting. I have not ckecked my VS scores since early 2021. I never received that notification. My highest card limit was $34.9k. Perhaps other factors were higher on the list such as # cards with balances and too few accounts.

 

See the below link for a complete list of VS2, VS3 and VS4 reason codes from the officially VantageScore sanctioned web site.

https://www.reasoncode.org/allcodes/

 


It was on the link you provided. Number "36"

Reason Code 36.png

 

Reason Code 36 1.png

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