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What to do next? (My First Post)

This is my first post so I will give you a little background about myself so you can understand where I'm coming from and maybe give me some suggestions on what I should do next... keep in mind, I am new here and learning about credit. Fortunately, I was never one of those young people who got into a mess of credit card debt.

 

I am 26yo, married. Our mortgage is in my husband's name only (it was purchased before we got married) and this is our only debt.

 

My credit history -

I have 2 bank credit cards, 2 retail credit cards plus 1 joint retail card with my husband

I have never had a late payment

I have 1 inquiry currently (switched cell phone providers in the past 6 months)

My oldest credit account is 6yrs, 6mo

The average age of my credit is 5yrs, 4mo

I have not used one of my retail cards in about 18 months so I think it may close soon (should I allow this to happen?)

I had an auto loan, it has been paid off for over a year now

We do not carry balances on our credit cards, they are paid in full each month (crazy, I know!)

Mint.com reports my FAKO score as 753, my husband's is over 800

I have used FICO credit calculator and it says 750-800 but I do not know my actual FICO score at the moment, I will be checking soon

 

Basically, I am seeking advice on what I should do next to continue to improve my score. Would adding myself to the mortgage help me but hurt his score? I assume this means we would have to refinance (take an inquiry hit) but he has a great rate, I would not want to jeopardize that. I have considered opening another card, but I don't know if that will help my score currently. Do I open a store card or another bank card? I have been considering a Macy's card or the Amazon.com card through Chase. Are there better cards out there that have a low or no annual fee? If I stop using cards all together (cash only) but keep my accounts open, will my score stay the same or will it decline? I'm totally content being debt free, but I know credit is important. Another possibility is that I am planning on returning to school within the next year. Though we have never had to take out student loans (we paid for school ourselves... and for the record, I do not mean our parents paid for us, WE truly paid ourselves) I have considered doing it this go around if it will benefit my score. Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

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Anonymous
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)

 

From what I can see you are doing everything right! Getting added to the mortgage would probably bump up your score a bit, but if there are any fees involved in doing that I wouldn't bother because you're basically already going to be in a top tier credit category and from a functional perspective, you can apply for and get whatever you want.

 

What's your goal?

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)

I just want to maintain a good credit score. I would love to be closer to 800 (I joke that I'm going to beat my husband's score, purely lighthearted) but as long as I stay above 720 I think I'm fine. I want to increase my CL total to help with utilization, even though mine hovers around 1% with balances paid off monthly. I have been offered 2 increases on cards in the last 6 months (ones that do not hit as an inquiry) so that has helped. I have been thinking about another card that I would actually use because currently, I am really only using 1/5 cards because of the rewards offered. I don't want too many hits though because my one inquiry is still less than 6 months old. After reading a few more forums it definitely seems like I should not let my cards lapse and just keep them open.

Is there a card out there with better rewards but a low (or no) annual fee? Currently I have a Chase Freedom, and Chase Slate (besides the retail cards). How much should it affect my score to open another card? How many inquiries in a 2yr time frame are okay? Mint.com says 2-4 is "good" but how much does that ding the scores? If I continue doing what I am doing will my score just remain the same or will it go down/up?

Thanks!
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takeshi74
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)

I don't think you need to worry too much about it.  If you're curious then pull your scores from myFICO but it sounds like your credit is in good shape and may already be at or above the 740-760 range where best terms are offered.  That said, keep in mind that creditors use a number of different scoring models and not just the FICO 8 and other FICO's provided my myFICO.  See also the Understanding FICO Scoring subforum and its stickies.

 

As for the retail card, it's your call to make.  Read the Closing Credit Cards threads in the Helpful Threads sticky in the credit cards subforum.  Use that info along with the subjective factors to determine your course of action on that card.  I don't keep cards that are of no use to me but that's just one approach and others take a different tack.  I can't tell you what to do.

 

On new cards, if you want recommendations then you need to tell us what you're looking for so we have criteria to narrow down the options.  Selecting a card is always a matter of finding what suits the individual best.  Better and best are always highly subjective matters regardless of topic.  What's lacking with your current lineup of cards?  Are oyu looking for rewards?  If so, where is your major spend that isn't getting rewards?  Have you run the numbers for different cards to determine the rewards you would stand to get?  Are any other benefits and features important to you?

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Are there better cards out there that have a low or no annual fee?


Always consider total cost/benefit (again, run the numbers) and not just the AF itself.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Do I open a store card or another bank card? I have been considering a Macy's card or the Amazon.com card through Chase.


You have to answer this.  This is a subjective matter.  What's most useful to you?  What's most beneficial to you?  Again, are you looking at rewards?  If so, consider the Sallie Mae or US Bank cash+ since they offer 5% cash back on Amazon though both have caps.

 

It's always tricky if you just select options and try to justify them no matter what you're considering (i.e. not just credit cards but anything in life).  Detemrine your needs/wants and then use that to narrow the options.

 

The Credit Cards subforum can be handy to see what's out there and popular but don't rely on popularity to select cards for you.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

If I stop using cards all together (cash only) but keep my accounts open, will my score stay the same or will it decline?


Start with this.

http://www.myfico.com/crediteducation/whatsinyourscore.aspx

 

It doesn't cover everything but it gives you some idea of the breakdown of your score.  What it doesn't cover is info like keeping revolving utilization (falls under Amounts Owed) generally under 30% and that optimal is just revolving balance reporting at 10% or less.  If you're getting cards for rewards then you'll probably want to run as much as possible through your cards even though it doesn't really matter for scoring purposes.

 

You don't want all your cards to report 0 balances as that shows that you're not using your revolving credit at all and there is a hit for that.  Factors such as AAoA (Length of Credit) will improve regardless of balance as long as accounts are kept open.  Some cards may not report if not actively used which won't really help Payment History.  

Don't overlook other discussions on different topics as a resource as well.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

 I have considered doing it this go around if it will benefit my score.


You can't make score a priority for all of your decisions.  Your needs and financial health take priority over score.  Don't take on a student loan for scoring purposes.  Take out a student loan because you need it.  Don't refinance your home for scoring purposes.  Refinance your home if you need to and/or if it makes financial sense.  Yes, installments will help with Mix of Credit but it's generally recommended that one not add them just for scoring purposes.

 

That said, it's certainly worth educating yourself to see if you can improve your credit.

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Fox342
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)

I think you and your husband are doing a great job!  At your age having no debt except for a mortgage is great!

 

I would recommend that you don't do anything JUST to improve your score.  Your score will improve over time, and besides from what I know there isn't any difference between the rates you get if you have a score of high 700's versus 800's.  Yeah, the higher score looks nice but that's about it.  As long as you pay your bills and keep your UTI low you'll be fine.  Putting your name on the mortgage might help your score a little...but I wouldn't do it just for your credit score, especially if it costs any money such as is involved in refinancing.  There are also other factors involved in any type of loan situation...such as income...something credit score doesn't take into consideration.  

 

As for retail cards, I don't use them anymore.  I found a couple of cash back credit cards that I like and I doubt if I'll change them anytime soon.  Rewards are great, but I can always use cash.  I don't agree with chasing rewards...I think in most cases people spend more to get the rewards, whether they admit it or not.

 

I would continue to use your credit cards as you need them and pay them off each month.  Credit score is based on the use of credit...so if you don't use it you will eventually lose it.  I do imagine it would take quite a while for you score to completely disappear though.

 

Just keep up the good work and your score will rise over time.  On time payments and history are the two most important factors in your credit score from what I know and those just take time to improve your score.

 

And above all...stay out of debt!  That is one of the most important factors in building wealth...and you and your husband are well on your way to a very financially healthy and secure life already! 

 

Good luck!

Fox

"The borrower is slave to the lender."
(EQ: 820) (TU: 827) (EX: 815)
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Anonymous
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)

Thank you all for this information! I will definitely explore these forums a bit more and check out the links you suggested.

I learned very early on to manage my money well. My parents did not make wise choices financially and they are paying for it now. I started investing in a 401K when I was 18 and have been somewhat obesessed with being financially responsible. It was amplified when I found Dave Ramsey a few years ago. I read one of his books but I never did his program or anything, I just wanted to see what he had to offer. I basically ended up where I am now on accident because I didn't fully understand credit but fortunately I didn't screw it up. I still have a lot to learn, obviously. My husbands credit is about 4yrs older than mine so I know that helps his score, but my main concern is just maintaining a healthy score and staying debt free.

As far as a new credit card, I'm not chasing rewards per say, but we do shop on Amazon quite a bit but my husband has that card so maybe I don't need it myself. I use the Chase Freedom points when they add up but I don't seek them out.
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Anonymous
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)

Improving a credit score is done to obtain more favorable credit in the future. I think you should device on a specific goal and then people here can likely give you some concrete advice. Perhaps, "have the highest possible score on date X when my mortgage renews so I can get the best mortgage rate" is a typical goal.

In the absence of any specific like that the best thing you can do is NOTHING. Let time age your accounts and your score will gradually creep up.

On the other hand if you wanted to benefit from the fantastic score you already have you could look into the credit card section and apply for a few premium cards with welcome bonuses and other benefits that you could cash in on. This will TEMPORARILY lower your score as there is a new account penalty, you get a hard pull, and it will lower your average age of accounts. But in moderation you can receive some great benefits (free flights, etc) and if you don't run those cards you or app too many then in time your score will rebound from that.

Decide what you want from your score!
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Anonymous
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)


@Anonymous wrote:
Thank you all for this information! I will definitely explore these forums a bit more and check out the links you suggested.

I learned very early on to manage my money well. My parents did not make wise choices financially and they are paying for it now. I started investing in a 401K when I was 18 and have been somewhat obesessed with being financially responsible. It was amplified when I found Dave Ramsey a few years ago. I read one of his books but I never did his program or anything, I just wanted to see what he had to offer. I basically ended up where I am now on accident because I didn't fully understand credit but fortunately I didn't screw it up. I still have a lot to learn, obviously. My husbands credit is about 4yrs older than mine so I know that helps his score, but my main concern is just maintaining a healthy score and staying debt free.

As far as a new credit card, I'm not chasing rewards per say, but we do shop on Amazon quite a bit but my husband has that card so maybe I don't need it myself. I use the Chase Freedom points when they add up but I don't seek them out.

You might want to take a look at the Sallie Mae card from Barclays. It has 5% cash back on gas, groceries, and books, with 1% cash back on everything else.. Amazon purchases are coded as books.

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jamie123
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)


@Anonymous wrote:

This is my first post so I will give you a little background about myself so you can understand where I'm coming from and maybe give me some suggestions on what I should do next... keep in mind, I am new here and learning about credit. Fortunately, I was never one of those young people who got into a mess of credit card debt.

 

I am 26yo, married. Our mortgage is in my husband's name only (it was purchased before we got married) and this is our only debt.

 

My credit history -

I have 2 bank credit cards, 2 retail credit cards plus 1 joint retail card with my husband

I have never had a late payment

I have 1 inquiry currently (switched cell phone providers in the past 6 months)

My oldest credit account is 6yrs, 6mo

The average age of my credit is 5yrs, 4mo

I have not used one of my retail cards in about 18 months so I think it may close soon (should I allow this to happen?)

I had an auto loan, it has been paid off for over a year now

We do not carry balances on our credit cards, they are paid in full each month (crazy, I know!)

Mint.com reports my FAKO score as 753, my husband's is over 800

I have used FICO credit calculator and it says 750-800 but I do not know my actual FICO score at the moment, I will be checking soon

 

Basically, I am seeking advice on what I should do next to continue to improve my score. Would adding myself to the mortgage help me but hurt his score? I assume this means we would have to refinance (take an inquiry hit) but he has a great rate, I would not want to jeopardize that. I have considered opening another card, but I don't know if that will help my score currently. Do I open a store card or another bank card? I have been considering a Macy's card or the Amazon.com card through Chase. Are there better cards out there that have a low or no annual fee? If I stop using cards all together (cash only) but keep my accounts open, will my score stay the same or will it decline? I'm totally content being debt free, but I know credit is important. Another possibility is that I am planning on returning to school within the next year. Though we have never had to take out student loans (we paid for school ourselves... and for the record, I do not mean our parents paid for us, WE truly paid ourselves) I have considered doing it this go around if it will benefit my score. Thoughts? Thanks in advance!


You are doing really great! Keep up the good work!

 

Your credit is really quite good and you don't really need to do too much to improve it but I will make a few suggestions.

 

1. Make sure that from this point onward that both you and your husband's names are listed on installment loans that you might need. These could be auto loans, auto leases or home improvement loans. This will give you a few extra points for having a mix of credit and will look good on your reports for future lenders. Don't go out of your way to do this, it's not worth it to get a loan and pay interest just to gain points.

 

2. SLOWLY, and I mean SLOWLY add a few more credit cards to your portfolio. You should add 1 or 2 quality bank credit cards to your portfolio each year until you have 5 to 8 cards that will grow with you for life. You want them to be from different lenders just in case something should happen to ruin your relationship with one lender, you have other lenders to fall back on. Diversification is what it is called. What if Chase went out of business for some reason or was bought out and the new owner forced you to close your old Chase cards and get new cards? You might lose all that history. It has happenened in the past.

 

You should get these new credit cards from the so called "prime" banks which are:

 

AMEX

Bank of America

CitiBank

Chase (You already have enough from these guys.)

Discover

Wells Fargo

 

Keep these cards open and active for life and your scores will continue to grow. Credit cards are the foundation of good credit scores. Not many people live in the same house for 20 years to be able to have a 20 year old mortgage but it is relatively easy for almost anybody to keep a credit card open for 20 years.

 

 


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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Anonymous
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Re: What to do next? (My First Post)

Thank you, Jamie123! That is very helpful information!! I have banked with Chase since I was in high school which is why I have their cards. My Slate card was actually converted from their old student +1 card and I am excited to see they will soon be offering free credit scores with that. I will research some of the options from these other banks and see what they have to offer. Thanks again!
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