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apr increases caused by this site?

I signed up for the Suzie Orman package and went through the steps of getting my credit reports, updated info at 2 of 3 and got a repayment plan to pay off my cards faster. All good stuff. But then I was told I should contact my credit card companies with high APR, read this letter to them and when they say no, you are given some alternative cards to apply to to transfer your balance. Here is the frustrating part. I have a bankrupcy that should expire in Aug this year (10 years old). I was declined for the first cc I tried because of this. Then you get this message about not appling for too many cards because it dings your credit report for too many inquires. So I did not apply to another one. Within 30 days, I got 3 credit cards that raised my apr's to 29.9% from 21% (I was told I should be paying 12%). Did all this stuff cause that to happen? Never been late on a payment, always pay more than minimum and have a FICO score of 660 and rising. Should I just wait until Aug to try again? Did I miss some warning about this? Thanks
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Dang 29.9% interest-thats outragous!!! Have you called them and asked them why it went up so much? Thats a big jump?

 

I did hear a recent rumor that CC APR's are going to go up because of the recession deal we are in-but I guess it must not have been a rumor.

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My advice would be to read on the CC forums regarding the CCC that raised your rates and also contacting your CCC to ask why the increase.

 

Did you not receive a letter in the mail explaining the increase and reason for it?

 

 

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1) The only company that increased APR for me is AmEx (they also closed my account). So it can be a coincedence that when you took the action your APR increased.

 

2) Can you give some details on the letter you mentioned. How can you bully CCC to decrease your APR?

 

Thanks 

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Thanks! The ccc did send me a letter. They stated that "upon review of your account, we are changing the terms  blah , blah." The one card is at max, but I pay at least $50 more a month to stay ahead of it. I will mention that it was a buyout in WAMU/Chase deal. The other card is a small business credit card with only a $500 limit and I have never taken it over the limit, but have paid the minimum lately. I plan to pay it off and close it since I have a yearly fee.

 

Maks, No bully letter. You call and read a script that you simply and nicely state that because of my current FICO score, I should be in the 12% range and would they please consider lowering my interest rate. If they say no, which they did by reading the same script they have given me before as WAMU, that they review accounts periodically and will evaluate it in the future. You say thanks, and also that you will probably go shopping for a new card and hang up. I guess some people get their rates lowered, but sure did not work for me.  How do I find the tread on ccc that raise your rate? I looked before posting here. Thanks

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Arty,

 

The 'problem' with credit repair and like advice is that there is really not a "one size fits all" model. While the very standard advice that you received is solid in general, it obviously wasn't tailored to the current and ever change moods of the psychotic lenders. A year ago, you are likely to have gotten what you asked for. Today, the lenders are looking for a reason, any reason, to classify you as too risky so they can take AA against you and pad their bottom lines. If they can't find a reason, that's okay... they can do it without one, LOL.

 

Following the advice here didn't cause the AA, although I definitely get your point and don't disagree that your contacting your lenders is what probably precipitated the AA. I believe that the real trigger was being maxed out and asking for an APR reduction. You gave some analyst(s) a reason to look at your account, in the current economic conditions, and reason to lump you in with the "risk of defaulting so let's ratejack'em" group. Now, if you don't PIF & quickly, they'll make even more $$$ off of you.

 

Look at it this way-- you've got a steady payment history. You have a vested interest in making your payments, because (as you indicated) your scores are on the rise (Congrats, btw!). But, you're maxed out while making more than the minimum, probably not making any real progress at paying off the debt. You make your lenders aware of your desire to lower the APR so you can more progress repaying. Your proactive approach tipped them off to the possibility of financial difficulties, and your desire to keep paying no matter what. In turn, the lenders saw an opportunistic cash cow. A year or two ago you were the ideal customer. Now, you're the guy with the high balace to credit ratio who might default. Raising your rates to make you keep chasing your tail is a win/win for them.

 

On the other hand, PIFing as soon as you possibly can, and SDing their cards, only using them for the cheapest $1 or less purchase that you can find, every few months just to keep it open, is a win/win for YOU.

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Thanks for clearing that up. Just frustrating since I spent 4 months getting a reclass just to make more money, so I could pay off credit cards faster, and they take more of it for themselves! I cannot PIF at this time. I do have the opportunites for freelance occasionally so I am able to pay down in chunks once in awhile. They have be SD for sometime now.

 

I had asked if I should try to reapply for a lower cards to transfer balances in August after my bankrupcy drops? Or will that just makes matters worse?  

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arty wrote: 

 have a FICO score of 660 and rising.

 

Should I just wait until Aug to try again?

 

Did I miss some warning about this?

 

Thanks


 

No you didn't miss any warning.

 

The queen of "perfect financial advice", is not so perfect.

 

If you did anything wrong, it was blindly following the advice of a multi millionaire who makes her money giving advice to people who often live paycheck to paycheck.

 

She is after all still basically an entertainer. She is not a credit councelor. She doesn't gather all the facts in a particular situation and offfer a taylor made solution. She offers blanket solutions that don't always work and may backfire. Suze never gives warnings or suggest caution to people who are willing to follow her advice.

 

In these forums we often warn people that their "Mileage May Vary". We at least would caution not to app for cards if you have low credit scores. High utilization, or serious derogs like BKs in file. I guess Suze overlooked that part when giving a blanket solution for a complex problem.

 

Suze's personality has no room for contemplation that her advice could hurt some people. In order to warn people that the advice could be wrong, it takes a humble personal who possesses at least a little humility.

 

This is just my opinion, but I am no expert, and I wight be wrong.   Smiley Wink

  

 

 

As far as apping again in August, that depends upon whether your credit scores  increase substantially  or not. If you substantially pay down the balances and raise your scores significantly, you might have a chance.  It is still highly unlikely that Suze's (outdated) advice will help you in the current credit climate.

 

 

 

 


arty wrote: 
Within 30 days, I got 3 credit cards that raised my apr's to 29.9% from 21% (I was told I should be paying 12%). Did all this stuff cause that to happen?

Obviously, following Suze's advice made you look desperate for credit in the eyes of your creditors. First you read a letter to them and then you applied for more credit from other lenders.

 

I myself, would really like to know what that magic letter said. I wonder if the wording was a red flag all by itself.

 

The chances are that the wording of the letter when added to a BK in file might have been the problem even before apping for another card.

 

The letter didn't by any chance mention that you qualified for lower interest rates based on offers that you were receiving from others? It didn't by any chance say that you would take your business elsewhere if they didn't lower your rates? In either cae having a BK in file would have made either claim a reason for your creditors to raise your rates since they wouldn't believe that you could actually get lower rates elsewhere because of your credit history.

 

In any event, you will certainly be in a lot better shape when the BK falls off in August. The problem is that credit availability will probably be even tighter for consumers by then also. Banks will definitely be raising interest rates even higher six months from now, not lowering them.

 

There might be some decent "temporary" lower rates available at that time. In order to qualify, if they do materialize, I would pay down as much debt as possible between now and then.

 

Again that is just my considered opinion and I might be wrong. I am not an expert and I don't have a television show. I don't know if you are a man or a woman, so I won't address you as "girlfriend". Smiley Indifferent



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I just read the post where you said.

 

 "Maks, No bully letter. You call and read a script that you simply and nicely state that because of my current FICO score, I should be in the 12% range and would they please consider lowering my interest rate. If they say no, ...........

 

 You say thanks, and also that YOU WILL PROBABLY GO SHOPPING FOR A NEW CARD."

 

I guessed it was something like that. The letter invited them to raise the rates because you made a threat that you couldn't carry out. They knew that nobody will give you a better deal with a BK and maxed utilization. You had no way of knowing that. In the future you can ask questions in this forum before acting on any advice, that you have been given elsewhere, even if you get it from Suze Orman.


Message Edited by CreditAble on 03-07-2009 05:50 PM
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