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practical value of a huge credit limit?

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rlx01
Established Contributor

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

The figure is somewhere around 50k.

The individual card utilization is ignored but it still factors into the *total* utilization.
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909
Regular Contributor

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

I was in for the test by having only my $50K CL AMEX report a balance in December but two auto-payments posted before I was able to pay them off.

If it helps, I went from two cards reporting a balance (incl. the Amex) to three cards and my scores went up a few points (EQ +7 to 807 and EX +6 to 797).

As a reminder, my Amex CL was increased from $20K to $50K in late November, the new balances and score increases happened after that.
Fico 8 Scores
7/2020: EQ - 842; TU - 832; EX - 848
10/2017: EQ - 823; TU - 835; EX - 824
05/2016: EQ - 712; TU - 706; EX - 710
11/2015: EQ - 694; TU - 651; EX - 653
5/2015: EQ - 670
5/2014: EQ - 653
11/2013: EQ - 645
05/2013: EQ - 656
11/2012: EQ - 646

Eight CCs ($179,500 CL, 0%-1% UTIL)
AoOA = 18.6 years, AAoA = 60 mos., AoYA = 18 mos.
One mortgage, one HELOC, no car loans.
Derogs from 2009 and 2010 now gone after 7 years. I started paying attention to credit scores in about 2014. It's taken a few years but credit scores are now good after starting in the high 500s back in 2011

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Anonymous
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Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

Unfortunately it's impossible to test then as you had multiple other cards with balances reported.  Next cycle if you can allow the $50k Amex to report a zero balance (with no other cards reporting balances) you'll be able to see whether or not your $50k card is included in your revolvers for scoring purposes.

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?


@Anonymous wrote:

Unfortunately it's impossible to test then as you had multiple other cards with balances reported.  Next cycle if you can allow the $50k Amex to report a zero balance (with no other cards reporting balances) you'll be able to see whether or not your $50k card is included in your revolvers for scoring purposes.


Think you meant Amex non-zero?

 

Not sure if this is a great test as the 50k line might still factor into number of revolvers with balance but not against individual or aggregate utilization potentially.  Charge cards historically do that for example but sadly I can't think of any better one other than maxxing out the line, which may not be in the cards.

 




        
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909
Regular Contributor

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

Maybe I can spend $50k on a car and return it for full credit? Smiley Happy

Fico 8 Scores
7/2020: EQ - 842; TU - 832; EX - 848
10/2017: EQ - 823; TU - 835; EX - 824
05/2016: EQ - 712; TU - 706; EX - 710
11/2015: EQ - 694; TU - 651; EX - 653
5/2015: EQ - 670
5/2014: EQ - 653
11/2013: EQ - 645
05/2013: EQ - 656
11/2012: EQ - 646

Eight CCs ($179,500 CL, 0%-1% UTIL)
AoOA = 18.6 years, AAoA = 60 mos., AoYA = 18 mos.
One mortgage, one HELOC, no car loans.
Derogs from 2009 and 2010 now gone after 7 years. I started paying attention to credit scores in about 2014. It's taken a few years but credit scores are now good after starting in the high 500s back in 2011

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909
Regular Contributor

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

p.s. Also, a possible cause for my scores increasing when I had additional accounts posting balances is that an inquiry for a mortgage refi aged past a year in Dec. I'll try to eliminate all balances except the $50k Amex in January.
Fico 8 Scores
7/2020: EQ - 842; TU - 832; EX - 848
10/2017: EQ - 823; TU - 835; EX - 824
05/2016: EQ - 712; TU - 706; EX - 710
11/2015: EQ - 694; TU - 651; EX - 653
5/2015: EQ - 670
5/2014: EQ - 653
11/2013: EQ - 645
05/2013: EQ - 656
11/2012: EQ - 646

Eight CCs ($179,500 CL, 0%-1% UTIL)
AoOA = 18.6 years, AAoA = 60 mos., AoYA = 18 mos.
One mortgage, one HELOC, no car loans.
Derogs from 2009 and 2010 now gone after 7 years. I started paying attention to credit scores in about 2014. It's taken a few years but credit scores are now good after starting in the high 500s back in 2011

Message 136 of 190
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?


@909 wrote:
p.s. Also, a possible cause for my scores increasing when I had additional accounts posting balances is that an inquiry for a mortgage refi aged past a year in Dec. I'll try to eliminate all balances except the $50k Amex in January.

Yeah, concrete testing can be hard.  At least the test can tell us something so thank you for doing this!




        
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

Correct above, Rev, I meant Amex non-zero.  I mis-spoke, no doubt. 

Message 138 of 190
bettercreditguy1
Established Contributor

Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

I also inquired about placing my wife's new automobile purchase on a credit card a couple of years ago. The Dealer's policy was maxed at $1500.00 because of the merchant fee. A point to ponder, some merchants upcharge or add the processing fee. This would then negate any positives for attempting to obtain points, rewards, or free services. Plus if you did not pay in full, the added interest would greatly diminish the value of those rewards. 

 

 

Updated scores 3/7/21 TU 849, EQ 829, Ex 818 (all Fico scores) Remember the Three P's: Pay early in Full, Pay on Time, Patience
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Anonymous
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Re: practical value of a huge credit limit?

Correct.  It would be very difficult for one to possess a CC with an interest rate nearly as good as the rate on an auto loan Smiley Happy

 

For those looking to buy a car in cash, they'd have to do the math to see if the service charge on using a CC would be worthwhile.  My guess is probably not.  Best case may be a break even situation which could help with a CC spend if that's the goal, but there's no much more that I see beneficial by doing this.

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