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GrillMasterTake2
Established Member

HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

Good afternoon fellow MyFico'ers!  

Formerly griallandwinemaster, until myfico made me create a new profile!! 😢 

 

Simple question, for a HELOC or a Home Equity Loan, which score versions do most Banks usually pull??

 

I know for a mortgage it's 5/4/2, but this would be for tapping into equity on a home with NO current mortgage. Do banks still use 5/4/2 score versions??

 

Thank you for your input! Very much appreciated!!

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ShanetheMortgageMan
Super Contributor

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

It's lender-specific, but I've found most still use 5/4/2's but there are many that use FICO 8's now, and often just a single bureau instead of a tri-merge.  

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GrillMasterTake2
Established Member

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

Thank you Sir! Appreciate the feedback. Looks like I need to find a bank/lender that uses middle 5/4/2 scores. I'm liking that 790 middle mortgage score! 

 

Is there any appreciable difference between the 790 middle vs Equifax 761 ver 8? Thank you again, Shane. 

 

 Current FICO 8 scores: 

Equifax 761

TUnion 748

Experian 730

 

Current 5/4/2 Scores: 

Equifax 791

TUnion 777

Experian 790

 

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

Isn't the benchmark for best home equity loan rates still a 760 score or has it increased to 780?

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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ShanetheMortgageMan
Super Contributor

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Isn't the benchmark for best home equity loan rates still a 760 score or has it increased to 780?


It'll vary by lender, but a lot of them have a 780+ credit score pricing tier and even a few even have an 800+.  

Free Mortgage Advice & Pre-Approvals (FHA, VA, USDA, Fannie, Freddie, Non-Prime, Construction, Renovation/Rehab, Commercial) since 2002
Mortgage Broker located in Southern California and lending in all 50 states
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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

Good to know.

For S&G I checked an on-line search engine. The top input tier it offered for credit score was 780-850. The input tier options were:

1. 780-850

2. 760-779

3. 740-759

4. 720-739

5. 700-719

6. 680-699

7. 660-679

8. 640-659

9. 620-639

10. <620

 

That's more granularity in credit score tiers for interest rate shopping than I anticipated.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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nuriyakaila
New Visitor

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

Yeah, most lenders don’t stick to 5/4/2 for HELOCs - they’ll often use a more current score version. In my experience, they care more about your overall profile than the exact score model.

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Have1
Regular Contributor

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

I am in the process of getting a Home Equity Loan from Navy Federal and they pulled my FICO 10 from Equifax.  So, there's that.

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GrillMasterTake2
Established Member

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS

Fico 10!?! How about that! It's my understanding a few lenders are "migrating" over to the Fico 10 version. At the moment, my scores favor the Fico 8, and are strongest on Fico 5/4/2 versions. 

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Have1
Regular Contributor

Re: HELOC SCORE VERSIONS


@GrillMasterTake2 wrote:

Fico 10!?! How about that! It's my understanding a few lenders are "migrating" over to the Fico 10 version. At the moment, my scores favor the Fico 8, and are strongest on Fico 5/4/2 versions. 


I was a bit surprised, too.  The LO told me my score was 839 and since I had just been looking at my scores I knew that wasn't one of my 5/4/2 scores.  So I asked what score version is that?  She told me FICO 10. 

 

Looking at my scores, FICO 10 and FICO 8 seem to be fairly close to each other.  So there is that. 

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