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Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!

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Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!

Hi all,

 

Would the above be advisable?

 

Monthly daycare expenses for my 2 children will come out to about $1500 starting in October. The problem is, the daycare will charge a 4% surcharge for credit card processing. Would it be worth paying the $60/month processing for these yummy 1500 MR points?

 

These guys make it seem like its a good idea, but I don't own those cards: https://thepointsguy.com/guides/best-credit-cards-for-daycare-expenses/

 

P.S. Daycare expenses are using pre-tax dollars the first $5k via Dependent Care FSA, per year.

 

Thanks!

 

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dragontears
Senior Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!

What do you value MR points at? At 2cpp 1,500 MR = $30
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!


@Anonymous wrote:

Hi all,

 

Would the above be advisable?

 

Monthly daycare expenses for my 2 children will come out to about $1500 starting in October. The problem is, the daycare will charge a 4% surcharge for credit card processing. Would it be worth paying the $60/month processing for these yummy 1500 MR points?

 

These guys make it seem like its a good idea, but I don't own those cards: https://thepointsguy.com/guides/best-credit-cards-for-daycare-expenses/

 

P.S. Daycare expenses are using pre-tax dollars the first $5k via Dependent Care FSA, per year.

 

Thanks!

 


No.  No way that any rewards will outweigh a 4% surcharge.


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randomguy1
Valued Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!

Perhaps you can use a cashback debit card such as Discover's for some additional revenue if you feel like opening a new bank account. You can get 1% back a month if they don't charge a surcharge.

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!


@randomguy1 wrote:

Perhaps you can use a cashback debit card such as Discover's for some additional revenue if you feel like opening a new bank account. You can get 1% back a month if they don't charge a surcharge.


OP said they charge a 4% surcharge!


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randomguy1
Valued Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@randomguy1 wrote:

Perhaps you can use a cashback debit card such as Discover's for some additional revenue if you feel like opening a new bank account. You can get 1% back a month if they don't charge a surcharge.


OP said they charge a 4% surcharge!


Why the red and exclamation mark? I saw that and read that. I have seen some places surcharge a credit card and NOT a debit card. They are subject to different fees.

 

For example:

My electricity bill charges 3% on any credit cards vs no charges on a debit card.

 

Here's a bit of reading for you:

https://www.merchantmaverick.com/credit-card-surcharges/

 

Here's more data from the IRS that shows the fees are NOT nearly the same:

https://www.irs.gov/payments/pay-taxes-by-credit-or-debit-card

 

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!


@randomguy1 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

@randomguy1 wrote:

Perhaps you can use a cashback debit card such as Discover's for some additional revenue if you feel like opening a new bank account. You can get 1% back a month if they don't charge a surcharge.


OP said they charge a 4% surcharge!


Why the red and exclamation mark? I saw that and read that. I have seen some places surcharge a credit card and NOT a debit card. They are subject to different fees.

 

For example:

My electricity bill charges 3% on any credit cards vs no charges on a debit card.

 

Here's a bit of reading for you:

https://www.merchantmaverick.com/credit-card-surcharges/

 

Here's more data from the IRS that shows the fees are NOT nearly the same:

https://www.irs.gov/payments/pay-taxes-by-credit-or-debit-card

 


I have never seen that. Every place I have seen that charges a "convenience fee" charges it for debit and credit cards alike.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 699 TU 696 EX 673




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althes
Frequent Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!

I hate places that surcharge, just not right in my book.

But yeah thats really steep.

Unless you really value MR or need to top up I would look for a 2% cash back card to use.

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K-in-Boston
Epic Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!

4% is a very steep fee!  I'm no stranger to paying for daycare and school tuition with credit cards, but either there was no fee or it was more in the 2.x% range, where it was at least a break-even proposition.  Paying the fees only makes sense if the rewards outweigh the cost, or under other circumstances like where you needed just a little more spend to hit a signup bonus that you otherwise would not have had (again the rewards outweigh the cost), or needed to hit an annual spending amount on a particular card and the fee is worth it.

 

If you're unable to pay by check, I would consider an alternative like Plastiq if the fees are that much.  It would be unusual to get at least 4 cents of value per MR point, buit if there's a particular transfer partner where you know that you can get that or more, go for it!

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VPExecutive
Frequent Contributor

Re: Daycare expenses via AMEX Gold for MR Points!

Daycare expenses of $1,500 a month and they have the nerve to charge 4% on credit card payments. 

 

I would tell the sitter to take a hike. 

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