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I think I'll pass, USAA.

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

I think I'll pass, USAA.

I saw an advertisement on my USAA Mobile App for a $200 bonus on their "Performance Savings" account.  It drew my attention ... unless I read the details.  

 

  • Deposit a minimum of $15,000 in new money within 30 days of opening a new account from (1/15/25 - 4/24/25).
  • Leave that money deposited for at least another 90 days.  (30+90 = 120 days minimum.)
  • Earn $200 bonus. 

At a minimum $15K to meet the requirement, this might be worthwhile if the account was a keeper.  That $200 for four months means you'd be earning an annualized 4% above the base rate during the promotion.  (200 x 3 = $600/15,000.) 

 

However, the account only earns ... drumroll please ... 0.01% on balances up to $50K! Smiley Indifferent

 

Then 0.50% between $50K-$100K; 0.60% between $100K and $250K; 0.70% between $250K and $500K; 1.10% for balances starting at $500K. 

 

Really, USAA?  You can clearly do better than this.  That is a lot of hoops to jump through and then I'd just be earning about the same rate I get everyday from my HYSA balances, not to mention remembering to close it all down after four months.   Maybe one day USAA will recognize what it needs to do in order to be competitive.

 

 

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GZG
Senior Contributor

Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.

the checking bonus is much better, only requires a $100 direct deposit 

 

you'd think if they need money, they'd lift their restrictions and allow it to be more open to any family of servicemembers, a la navy federal

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JoeRockhead
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Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.

Not all that motivating for some,  but I'm sure there are people out there who will say, hey... $200 is $200.  

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.


@JoeRockhead wrote:

Not all that motivating for some,  but I'm sure there are people out there who will say, hey... $200 is $200.  


Right, @JoeRockhead, but if making money easily is the objective, there are still quite a few HYSA's (often with no minimum balances or lower than $15K) that earn more than 4.01%, not only in the first four months but most likely in the months thereafter!   Even if rates fell, they would likely earn much more than 0.01%.    USAA set the bar so low that even the short-term gain is not worth the effort! Smiley Sad

 

*Doctor of Credit list of HYSAs is a few months old but many of the rates are still at or well over 4.00%.  Here's a sampling, current as-of today. 

 

Roger 5.00% (with Direct Deposit)

PiBank 4.75% (No minimum)

Brio Direct 4.75% ($5K to open; $25 to earn APR)

Quontic 4.75% ($100 minimum to open)

Brilliant Bank 4.70% ($1K minimum)

Popular Direct 4.60% ($100 minimum)

Bask Bank 4.50% (No minimum)

Vio Bank 4.46% ($100 minimum to open)

Redneck Bank/All American Bank 4.40% ($500 minimum to open; $100K maximum for APR)

CFG 4.37% ($1K minimum)

CIT Bank 4.35% ($5K minimum)


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NoMoreE46
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Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.

Wow, well they got to pay Gronk and Sam Elliot for those commercials.   I would like to think this is why those rates are  redonk-cool-less.

Plus,  who would deposit more than the FDIC max of $250,000?

 

 

 

 

 

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ptatohed
Senior Contributor

Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.


@Aim_High wrote:

I saw an advertisement on my USAA Mobile App for a $200 bonus on their "Performance Savings" account.  It drew my attention ... unless I read the details.  

 

  • Deposit a minimum of $15,000 in new money within 30 days of opening a new account from (1/15/25 - 4/24/25).
  • Leave that money deposited for at least another 90 days.  (30+90 = 120 days minimum.)
  • Earn $200 bonus. 

At a minimum $15K to meet the requirement, this might be worthwhile if the account was a keeper.  That $200 for four months means you'd be earning an annualized 4% above the base rate during the promotion.  (200 x 3 = $600/15,000.) 

 

However, the account only earns ... drumroll please ... 0.01% on balances up to $50K! Smiley Indifferent

 

Then 0.50% between $50K-$100K; 0.60% between $100K and $250K; 0.70% between $250K and $500K; 1.10% for balances starting at $500K. 

 

Really, USAA?  You can clearly do better than this.  That is a lot of hoops to jump through and then I'd just be earning about the same rate I get everyday from my HYSA balances, not to mention remembering to close it all down after four months.   Maybe one day USAA will recognize what it needs to do in order to be competitive.

 

 

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To be completely fair, it is $15k within 30 days of opening the account, so you could open the account with, say, $25 and then on the 29th day deposit the remainder $14,975, so it would be more like $200 x 4 / 1500 = 5.33%.    @Kforce  will correct me if I am wrong.  It is late and I am getting over a sickness.  Smiley Happy  

 

 

 

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TrapLine
Established Contributor

Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.

Since 2015 USAA Federal Savings Bank has chocked up several major no no's in the world of banking. They have paid out many millions in penalties. Their customer service used to rate up with Discover Bank. Well not so much today.

 

The good ole days that used to exist for them go way back to say in 2008 and, are now in the rear view window. Consumer security was blasted a couple of years ago. Frankly, if they knew banking they would have NOT had the major violations (note this is included in posting around MyFico over many years). How they have survived this long is amazing. Truth, there is no excuse for the short comings.

 

Am I bitter? Yes, I used many of their various programs, investments, credit and banking. Signed out of their when I found the customer security challenges a couple of years ago.

 

What always amazed me was their ability to keep most of the negative press limited to the Texas news media?

 

Way better financials out there today and I was a loyal veteran who served in foreign countries and believed in them?!

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.


@ptatohed wrote:

 

To be completely fair, it is $15k within 30 days of opening the account, so you could open the account with, say, $25 and then on the 29th day deposit the remainder $14,975, so it would be more like $200 x 4 / 1500 = 5.33%.    @Kforce  will correct me if I am wrong.  It is late and I am getting over a sickness.  Smiley Happy  


That's true and a good point, @ptatohed, although to make sure you meet that deadline you'd need to have the funds moved into the account at least a couple of days early.   I calculated based on funding as early as account opening because that's how I would normally set up a new account.  And most bonuses state you must deposit with x days (like 30) but then leave the funds deposited for a total of x days, not beginning the deposit requirement after the full initial deposit term. So you'd get the 5.33% for that 90-day period if you waited plus that "extra" 0.01, so 5.34%!  Smiley Tongue  While that isn't a bad return, the long term interest is sooooo bad that you'd have to make sure you moved the money immediately when you met the requirement.  

 

Some other caveats I noticed:

 

  • I went through the initial application page to get more information.  It looks like they may want to do a HARD PULL for approval. 

 

  • The minimum initial funding is $1,000, so interest would be lost on that amount at a minimum for 30 days.  (balances less than $10K earn 0.01% APR.)

 

  • The bonus is paid into the Performance Savings Account "within 60 days" after meeting the requirements, so the account must still be open to get the bonus.   (So I'm wondering if there is a minimum that must be left in the account above $0.01?)  Again, potentially lost interest for another 60 days. 

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Realist
Established Contributor

Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.

Not all bank offers make sense, and you have to laugh at how much some institutions want you to tie up with them.

 

If you run a CD calculator, $15k at a 4.73% CD rate for 4 months brings in $232.87.  You can find five and seven month promotional terms around a quite a few CU's or banks.

 

Now Chase, is an excellent candidate.  $900 for a $15k deposit for only 4 months, especially with a P1 and P2 combo.  But other great welcome offers are the direct deposit opportunities.   Chuck a few bucks over, typically greater than $500, once or twice, and you earn a nice $200-$300.  Quick cash for a P1 and P2 combo.

 

 

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UncleB
Credit Mentor

Re: I think I'll pass, USAA.


@GZG wrote:

the checking bonus is much better, only requires a $100 direct deposit 

 

you'd think if they need money, they'd lift their restrictions and allow it to be more open to any family of servicemembers, a la navy federal


I've been saying this for ages. 

 

Their membership criteria is so convoluted trying to follow it it would make an acrobat dizzy.

 

Then again they seem to be struggling with their current membership levels, so perhaps getting a surge of new members wouldn't be the best idea.  Of course this begs the question of why they're paying out so much on advertising (Gronk, et al.) but I digress...

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