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joltdude
Senior Contributor

Re: Experian Boost

I have privacy concerns with Experian Boost and UltraFico... Be honest im not sure quite how it works (Do they maintain the connection to the linked account or is it a one use only).. And on other notes.. What do they do with the data they get being directly in your checking account.... 

Do they trade/sell it to say... I dunno Lexis/Nexis..... or one of the secondary CRAs... Sagestream? Others.... Also of the opinion this may actually hurt certain types of customers... not help them... esp if your self-employed/seasonal/or similar situation where you have more income at certain times and less at others ....... But thats just me... I do like control over my privacy... Even though I know complete privacy is nonexistant....

 

Just some food for thought..

-J

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KJinNC
Valued Contributor

Re: Experian Boost

I have not tried it.

 

It seems like a marketing stunt to me, not something that will be useful in most situations.

 

If all three credit bureaus did the same thing in a consistent way, that's fine, but since they don't, I think this will simply result in EX scores being less trusted, or at least, being looked at differently than EQ and TU scores.



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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Experian Boost

This is something I will never use, the CRAs cannot handle their jobs properly with what they have done for the last 5 decades or so. Giving them further access into ones private financial affairs is well...... Too much data can be a killer just like too little can be.
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coreysw12
Valued Contributor

Re: Experian Boost

It worked for me - they were only able to add my electric bill, but that was enough to boost my score (at the time) from 613 to 629. A 16 point gain, enough to cross my score from no-mortgage-for-you territory into mortgage-qualification territory, which could be a big deal for some people. Good way to add some free last-minute points if you plan on applying for credit soon, if you can stomach the thought of giving Experian your bank login info. You can literally add points to your Exp. FICO instantly, from your phone, while you're sitting in the financing office of a car dealership. The re-score happens in seconds.

It only affects your Experian score, by the way. It doesn't do anything for the other Bureaus. And I'm not sure which scoring models it affects - I know it works for Fico8, but I don't know about the other FICO scores or the FAKOs.

The nice thing about it is that you can instantly reverse it if you don't like the results. If it inadvertantly drops your score instead of boosting it, you can immediately undo it. Also, I believe they ONLY report positive payment history for the accounts it adds, I believe they do not report any negative payment info for those accounts.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Experian Boost

UltraFico isn't even available yet correct? And I believe they use Plaid or some other form of linking.

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KJinNC
Valued Contributor

Re: Experian Boost


@coreysw12 wrote:

It worked for me - they were only able to add my electric bill, but that was enough to boost my score (at the time) from 613 to 629. A 16 point gain, enough to cross my score from no-mortgage-for-you territory into mortgage-qualification territory, which could be a big deal for some people. Good way to add some free last-minute points if you plan on applying for credit soon, if you can stomach the thought of giving Experian your bank login info. You can literally add points to your Exp. FICO instantly, from your phone, while you're sitting in the financing office of a car dealership. The re-score happens in seconds.

It only affects your Experian score, by the way. It doesn't do anything for the other Bureaus. And I'm not sure which scoring models it affects - I know it works for Fico8, but I don't know about the other FICO scores or the FAKOs.

The nice thing about it is that you can instantly reverse it if you don't like the results. If it inadvertantly drops your score instead of boosting it, you can immediately undo it. Also, I believe they ONLY report positive payment history for the accounts it adds, I believe they do not report any negative payment info for those accounts.


I'm glad it worked for you, but the concern I have is, pretty much all the positives you listed. They only report good stuff from utility bills and you can reverse it if you don't like what you see? Put yourself in a lender's shoes. Not the guy across the desk trying to get you a mortgage, he'll be as happy as you. The guy at the loan origination office. You have a policy not to grant mortgages to X score for a reason. How are you going to feel when you realize that Experian has sabotaged your system? If it were me, I'd issue a new rule: stop using Experian. I think they're playing with fire on this. Also, it could lead to a bit of an arms race, where lenders who stick with Experian (like Amex) assume everyone is boosting their score this way, so people with an unboosted score will be at a disadvantage.

 

I think counting utilities is fair, I just think it needs to be consistent, or it's going to lead to an adjustment of some kind, at some point.



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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Experian Boost

I have been using this feature, for my light bill, it comes in handy, it went up 8 points! Smiley Very Happy

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ibebarrett
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian Boost

I tried but only saw a 5 point boost, I was hoping it would be more since I'm trying to recover from lates. My utility bill comes every other month so boost didn't like that, and I changed ISPs around 6 months ago so they only see a few of those payments, and I share a phone account with my grandma and pay her directly, so it's definitely a situational thing!

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Message 28 of 62
coreysw12
Valued Contributor

Re: Experian Boost


@KJinNC wrote:


I'm glad it worked for you, but the concern I have is, pretty much all the positives you listed. They only report good stuff from utility bills and you can reverse it if you don't like what you see? Put yourself in a lender's shoes. Not the guy across the desk trying to get you a mortgage, he'll be as happy as you. The guy at the loan origination office. You have a policy not to grant mortgages to X score for a reason. How are you going to feel when you realize that Experian has sabotaged your system? If it were me, I'd issue a new rule: stop using Experian. I think they're playing with fire on this. Also, it could lead to a bit of an arms race, where lenders who stick with Experian (like Amex) assume everyone is boosting their score this way, so people with an unboosted score will be at a disadvantage.

 

I think counting utilities is fair, I just think it needs to be consistent, or it's going to lead to an adjustment of some kind, at some point.


I 100% agree with that.

 

The whole concept is flawed and a bad idea, and degrades the quality of the FICO scoring model... but the fact is that, like you said, if you don't take advantage of it then it puts you at a sort of disadvantage.

 

It reminds me of the $8k first-time homebuyer tax credit the feds offered back in 2010, when I bought my first home. I disagreed wholeheartedly with the premise and concept of it, but I'll be danged if I'm not going to take it when it's offered to me. Unfortunately, like it or not, it's there for the taking and if you don't take it, you're potentially at a disadvantage.

 

Look at the bright side, at least we're not giving our bank info to Equifax Smiley Very Happy Kidding, sort of

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Hockeypnc1
Established Contributor

Re: Experian Boost


@Anonymous wrote:

I was reviewing my credit report with Experian and noticed Experian Boost is offered. Your FICO Score will get an instant boost by adding your utility and phone payment history to your Experian credit file.

 

Has anyone used this feature?


Used it, did not gain any points. But now they are "reporting" my cell phone and electric bill. 

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