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Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

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mAndrew1980
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Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

In 2004 I defaulted on my utility bill in the amount of $2,200.00. The OC sold it to a CA in 2007, who sold it to another CA in 2010. I've been paying the current CA since 2010 and currently owe $275.00 (I've paid off over $1,900.00).

 

Anyways the OC fell off in November. The duplicate CA (the first one) remained on TU and EQ, inaccurately reporting an owed balance of $2,200.00. On Monday I disputed this duplicate CA on both TU and EQ and they were removed while under investigation.

 

This morning I logged on to my USAA reports and found out the OC re-appeared on TU. I believe certain debts, such as utility bills, can stay on credit reports in Illinois for 10 years. I'm not sure how to check this? But what should I do? Can I dispute this as well? It's terribly frustrating to dispute the duplicate CA and have the OC re-appear after having already fallen off.

 

 

Transunion: 713 FICO (5/13/2014) MyFico
Experian: 789 FICO (4/10/12) Lender Pull
Equifax: 695 FICO (1/10/14) MyFico

My cards: Chase United Mileage Plus 7000CL (3/12), CITI Simplicity 1800CL (9/12), Cap1 Platinum 1000CL (2/10), Cap1 Cash back 1500CL (11/11), Apple Barclay's 2500CL (11/11), Discover IT 6000CL (5/13)

My Primary Financial Goal is to put down my utl%.



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mAndrew1980
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Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

Wow I'm really upset about this. Can't find anything about utility collections being able to stay on for 10 years in Illinois. I might dispute this as well. FRUSTRATION setting in. Just don't see how this could have happened?

Transunion: 713 FICO (5/13/2014) MyFico
Experian: 789 FICO (4/10/12) Lender Pull
Equifax: 695 FICO (1/10/14) MyFico

My cards: Chase United Mileage Plus 7000CL (3/12), CITI Simplicity 1800CL (9/12), Cap1 Platinum 1000CL (2/10), Cap1 Cash back 1500CL (11/11), Apple Barclay's 2500CL (11/11), Discover IT 6000CL (5/13)

My Primary Financial Goal is to put down my utl%.



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casmith1980
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Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

Maybe I just need some more schooling on this, but I thought that everything BUT BKs have to be removed after 7-7.5 years after DOFD (10 yrs for BK).

 

I hope RobertEG or another person with more knowledge chimes in soon.

 

 

I'm sorry you have to go through this Andrew Smiley Sad  Keeping my fingers crossed it removes shortly.

Filed BK 12/5/14
341 meeting 1/9/15
Anticipated discharge 3/10/15

Goal: 700 by 3/2017
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mAndrew1980
Established Contributor

Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

Yeah I can't find anything in state laws allowing this to stay longer than 7 years. I'm inclined to dispute it but I'll wait till some other MyFico'ers chime in.

Transunion: 713 FICO (5/13/2014) MyFico
Experian: 789 FICO (4/10/12) Lender Pull
Equifax: 695 FICO (1/10/14) MyFico

My cards: Chase United Mileage Plus 7000CL (3/12), CITI Simplicity 1800CL (9/12), Cap1 Platinum 1000CL (2/10), Cap1 Cash back 1500CL (11/11), Apple Barclay's 2500CL (11/11), Discover IT 6000CL (5/13)

My Primary Financial Goal is to put down my utl%.



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llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

Prior to the passage of the FCRA, states were creating their own rules with regards to reporting, like NY's 5-yr rule on paid baddies. However, I'm fairly certain that the FCRA states that state-law can't superceed federal law whereby something could report longer.

 

The FCRA says that it can stay for 7-7.5 years as a baddie. If in 2004, you could just barely be inside that CRTP. What's the DOFD listed on your CR or the drop off date?

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mAndrew1980
Established Contributor

Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

My TU report had the fall off date listed as November 2011. It did fall off in November like it was supposed to. I might have to spend the $15 or so and pull my TU report again to find out the dofd.

Transunion: 713 FICO (5/13/2014) MyFico
Experian: 789 FICO (4/10/12) Lender Pull
Equifax: 695 FICO (1/10/14) MyFico

My cards: Chase United Mileage Plus 7000CL (3/12), CITI Simplicity 1800CL (9/12), Cap1 Platinum 1000CL (2/10), Cap1 Cash back 1500CL (11/11), Apple Barclay's 2500CL (11/11), Discover IT 6000CL (5/13)

My Primary Financial Goal is to put down my utl%.



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mAndrew1980
Established Contributor

Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

Ahhh, according to my USAA reports the only listed date is October 2004 as "date opened." Pretty sure I didn't even make a single payment, which as I understand it, would make my dofd November 2004 because it would have reached 30 days late status at that point. No additional payments were made after that so I never got caught up and re-set the clock. Assuming the dofd was 11/2004, so they could still technically report until May of 2012 (7.5 years).


However, I have been paying the new owner of the debt (the current CA) so would paying off the CA re-set the clock on the OC even if they don't own the debt anymore? The OC lists my balance with them as $0 but still lists the account as "open" even though it says closed by utility co.

 

Now I'm really confused.

Transunion: 713 FICO (5/13/2014) MyFico
Experian: 789 FICO (4/10/12) Lender Pull
Equifax: 695 FICO (1/10/14) MyFico

My cards: Chase United Mileage Plus 7000CL (3/12), CITI Simplicity 1800CL (9/12), Cap1 Platinum 1000CL (2/10), Cap1 Cash back 1500CL (11/11), Apple Barclay's 2500CL (11/11), Discover IT 6000CL (5/13)

My Primary Financial Goal is to put down my utl%.



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llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

That CRTP clock won't reset. It'll fall off soon.

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RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Help! Disputed a duplicate CA and the OC re-appeared!!!

The FCRA establishes a national maximum credit report inclusion period that cannot be extended by any state statute.

 

Since the FCRA only sets maximum periods, any state can enact a shorter period and still be consistent with the FCRA.  But they cannot extend the period.

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