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Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.

I've tried to search for this on the forums, but most already have their DoFD and just want to calculate fall off date. I need help calculating what the DoFD should be on this account. They've been reported differently across all three CRAs thanks to Portfolio using different open/close dates.

 

Here's what I have: date of last payment to Comenity was exactly 11/12/2010. The account was never brought current past that date.

 

What I can't figure out: the actual DoFD. 

 

Help?

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gdale6
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.


@Anonymous wrote:

I've tried to search for this on the forums, but most already have their DoFD and just want to calculate fall off date. I need help calculating what the DoFD should be on this account. They've been reported differently across all three CRAs thanks to Portfolio using different open/close dates.

 

Here's what I have: date of last payment to Comenity was exactly 11/12/2010. The account was never brought current past that date.

 

What I can't figure out: the actual DoFD. 

 

Help?


You should recally call the OC if possible and get this information but from DOLP, the next statement will cut, you miss that payment date, the following statement cuts, once you go 30 past the first due date missed that would be the accepted 30 day late and DoFD if its never brought current again.

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Anonymous
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.


@Anonymous wrote:

I've tried to search for this on the forums, but most already have their DoFD and just want to calculate fall off date. I need help calculating what the DoFD should be on this account. They've been reported differently across all three CRAs thanks to Portfolio using different open/close dates.

 

Here's what I have: date of last payment to Comenity was exactly 11/12/2010. The account was never brought current past that date.

 

What I can't figure out: the actual DoFD. 

 

Help?


Open/close dates have no bearing on or relate in any way to, the DoFD. Have you pulled your EQ report from annualcreditreport.com? EQ shows the actual DoFD as reported by the the furnisher. TU and EX on the other hand, only show the estimated drop date, which should be based on the same reported DoFD, but will not necessarily be the same as there is a six month "window" that they shoot for. As long as that falloff date does not exceed 7.5 years from the DoFD, its a valid drop date. 

 

Now, having said that, if you know that the last payment was made on 11/12/2010, assuming that payment was on time, the DoFD would fall in a 60 day window beginning about 60 days later. Without knowing the exact payment due date, and where the last payment was made in relation to that date, its impossible to pin it down closer.

 

Do you have a report showing Comenitity's monthly history?

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Anonymous
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.

What I have for last payment is from the OC. The only other bit of info I have is it was transferred to Sold Accounts on 7/25/2011. Portfolio grabbed it 11/27/2012.

 

 

I have no credit report from 2010/2011. That looks like the approximate due date based on the emails I have in archive, but nothing more concrete. Comenity didn't have a ton of info from World Financial Network Bank files.

 

TU says drop off date is: 12/2017

EQ says DOFD is: 01/2011

EX says: This account is scheduled to continue on record until Oct 2017.

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RobertEG
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.

The DOFD is, by definition, the date prior to the collection that you first became delinquent, and thereafter the account remained delinquent until it was referred for collection.

It would be the billing due date set in the bill that you first were delinquent in paying.

 

As stated, the open/close dates are irrelevant.

The DOFD is required to be separately obtained and reported by the debt collector using the procedure outlined in FCRA 623(a)(5).

Unless the OC previously reported the DOFD to the CRA,  which would only have been required had they reported a charge-off, then the debt collector eas required to have contacted the OC and attempted to obtain the DOFD directly from them.  If they made such an attempt and were unable to obtain the date from the OC, they were then enttitled to make their best guess, as long as they dont report a date later than the date they received their collection authority.

In any eent, they were required to have reproted the DOFD no later than 90 days after reporting their collection.

 

Once you have obtained the DOFD that was reported by the debt collector, you can dispute its accuracy if you have documentation that supports a different date.

If you have no billing records or evidence that the OC reported a different date, that will be tough.

However, if they have reported different DOFDs to different CRAs, that in and of itself could support a dispute, as the DOFD is a factual date-certain, and should not vary depeinding upon who it is reported to.  The issue would then be which one is correct.  Without any documentation, it would be difficult to assert which is accurate......

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Anonymous
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.

And therein lies my quandary. PRA had already had some oddities in how they were reporting, showing a few 116 dollar payments in the balance history in EX report for 2013. (It was listed as account balance / date payment received / scheduled payment amount / actual amount paid and the 116 showed for several months under the "actual amount paid" column.)

In the EQ it has the date the first major delinquency being reported in 2013 but the balance history doesn't go as far back as the EX does.

TU has the least amount of info with just the date opened, the last payment date and then the date due to fall off.

The debt has been paid, but with it reporting oddly on the different CRAs, I have no idea when I should expect this account to fall off or request it be taken off. The sooner I'm done with PRA, the better.
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Anonymous
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.

Oh, and strangely enough, the last payment that was made in 2010 was for 115 and some change. Which makes no sense as to why it's being reported on EX in 2013?
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RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.

What date was specifically reported by the debt collector as the Dofd?

Ignore all the other side issues, and obtain that specific reporting.

That separate and speicific reporting is the only date that will be used by the CRA when determning its exclusion from your credit report.

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Anonymous
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.

According to Equifax, it's 1/2011. That would make it fall off in 2018, right? (Gah, that's depressing.)

I'm assuming as a consumer there's no way for me to verify it, short of having my own documentation?
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Anonymous
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Re: Help calculating DoFD from last payment date.


@Anonymous wrote:

What I have for last payment is from the OC. The only other bit of info I have is it was transferred to Sold Accounts on 7/25/2011. Portfolio grabbed it 11/27/2012.

 

 

I have no credit report from 2010/2011. That looks like the approximate due date based on the emails I have in archive, but nothing more concrete. Comenity didn't have a ton of info from World Financial Network Bank files.

 

TU says drop off date is: 12/2017

EQ says DOFD is: 01/2011

EX says: This account is scheduled to continue on record until Oct 2017.


The reported  EQ DoFD corresponds with the time frame I described for the last payment date of 11/12/2010. EX and TU's estimated falloff dates are both well inside the 7.5 year period - in fact EX has a falloff date three months before the 7 year mark.

Thats in your favor. I would leave it alone. As I stated earlier the open/close dates from Portfolio are completely irrelevant to the DoFD or drop dates.

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