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Alright everyone, I'm feeling extremely discouraged about my credit situation. Here's where I'm at:
Filed bankruptcy in 2014. After the bankruptcy I got several credit cards: 2 CapOne cards, a Comenity Bank/VS card and a Kohls card. I tried to be responsible with them, paid on time until husband lost his job. I then had to put every single penny of my income into keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table - that took priority over the credit card payments. All the cards were charged off/closed/sold to collections. I also accrued some medical collections (under 2k) so that is also reporting on my credit. About 9 months ago I took out 2 secure credit cards in an attempt to rebuild, one I've kept up with and the other I missed payments for 90 days and they closed it. I checked my FICO today and it's 445... I just don't know what to do. I'm now a single mom, most of my income goes towards my living expenses and food on the table, so I can't afford to pay off any of the collections. I don't qualify for any credit cards due to my low score unless they're secured cards (and I can't afford to have money tied up in deposits for secured cards). My credit score is affecting my quality of life. I can't rent a decent home (even though I've never been late on my rent) because landlords look at my credit score and say "no way!" so I'm stuck renting in the ghetto and/or from slumlords that don't care about credit. I mean, what can I do that doesn't require me to spend thousands of dollars that I don't have? Am I just stuck until the 7 years runs out and all the negative stuff falls off? Are any of the credit repair companies effective worth the money?
I'm a parelegal with a degree, I work at a law firm and I make the average wage for a paralegal in my city. I really can't make more money without switching careers or relocating. I am actually currently looking into relocating to another state where the cost of living is cheaper, however relocating is hard because my rental applications get rejected due to the credit situation (not to mention the money I lose on applicaton fees).
@aLottaGoodEggs wrote:Alright everyone, I'm feeling extremely discouraged about my credit situation. Here's where I'm at:
Filed bankruptcy in 2014. After the bankruptcy I got several credit cards: 2 CapOne cards, a Comenity Bank/VS card and a Kohls card. I tried to be responsible with them, paid on time until husband lost his job. I then had to put every single penny of my income into keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table - that took priority over the credit card payments. All the cards were charged off/closed/sold to collections. I also accrued some medical collections (under 2k) so that is also reporting on my credit. About 9 months ago I took out 2 secure credit cards in an attempt to rebuild, one I've kept up with and the other I missed payments for 90 days and they closed it. I checked my FICO today and it's 445... I just don't know what to do. I'm now a single mom, most of my income goes towards my living expenses and food on the table, so I can't afford to pay off any of the collections. I don't qualify for any credit cards due to my low score unless they're secured cards (and I can't afford to have money tied up in deposits for secured cards). My credit score is affecting my quality of life. I can't rent a decent home (even though I've never been late on my rent) because landlords look at my credit score and say "no way!" so I'm stuck renting in the ghetto and/or from slumlords that don't care about credit. I mean, what can I do that doesn't require me to spend thousands of dollars that I don't have? Am I just stuck until the 7 years runs out and all the negative stuff falls off? Are any of the credit repair companies effective worth the money?
I'm pretty sure you need to file for bankruptcy again. When you go to the doctor and cannot pay, all you need to do is tell them and they will work with you. It's possible to do that now, even though they are in collections, because there are laws in place to protect people from accruing too much medical debt. However, because of the other money you ALREADY spent, I don't think it's worth going down that road. Unless you can pay all of these off, minus the medical debt, there's really no way to pull your scores out of the gutter.
I understand getting in over your head, but I think that something you maybe didn't learn in your bankruptcy is to not spend more than you have. While there are cases in which things pop up that span a few months to cover (medical, car trouble, etc), I know for certain the VS/Kohl's charge-offs weren't necessary spends or emergency situations. At all costs, you shouldn't be putting on credit cards what you wouldn't be paying out of your cash reservoir. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but it's clear from your title that you don't seem to understand that you did spend "copious amounts" of money, and that is why you are in this predicament to begin with.
I know that's probably not what you want to hear, but sometimes you just have to suck it up and realize that in your second chance, you still didn't have the right mind-set in place to understand and use credit responsibly.
I strongly suggest you file bankruptcy again, look closely at your expenses, and start squirreling away whatever is leftover into savings. Ideally, you should have AT LEAST three months of bills, but six months is much better. That way if something happens, you will be able to pay off outstanding debts and meet your obligations while you recover from whatever has happened. I would steer clear of getting any cards until you have the savings in place.
I understand your situation, I really do. I am a single mom, and got zero help from my daughter's father. I grew up in poverty and my parents stole from others, and when I started working, stole from me, too. I never really got the chance to get myself into debt, but my mom stole my identity and so I started out with horrible credit and it stayed there until I took care of it. I lived in a lot of really sketchy places with my kid and at time worked 3 jobs to hold it all together - all because of my credit history. Life can be hard, but as long as you deal with it when it happens, it won't turn out so badly. If other medical things come up, immediately ask about programs for low-income individuals. If you are unable to pay a bill on time, call that biller immediately to make arrangements. Often times it's the communication of issues that is so incredibly difficult, but it's the one thing that can save you from falling into disarray.
I do wish you the best of luck in trying to get back on top of things.
I understand that I spent money and got myself into this predicament. You're right, the $300 I spent at VS wasn't a "necesary purchase" however I thought that I'd keep up with the payments and It would help improve my credit score. I didn't foresee the future. There's nothing I can do about that now. Heck if I could pay them back I could but other bills take priority... and I'm not even sure that paying VS back would even help my credit anyway considering its already a charge-off.
@Iowakeyorca...If the bankruptcy was a chapter 7 and she recieved discharges, she can not recieve any discharges in any subsequent chapter 7 filings for 8 years. Bankruptcy may not be a viable option.
@aLottaGoodEggs wrote:I understand that I spent money and got myself into this predicament. You're right, the $300 I spent at VS wasn't a "necesary purchase" however I thought that I'd keep up with the payments and It would help improve my credit score. I didn't foresee the future. There's nothing I can do about that now. Heck if I could pay them back I could but other bills take priority... and I'm not even sure that paying VS back would even help my credit anyway considering its already a charge-off.
1. You don't need to spend money you wouldn't normally spend to build credit. In fact, this just costs you more money. You don't even need to carry a balance at all to build credit. You can put one bill on autopay, pay it every month before the statement cuts, pay 0 interest and the card would stay active. All you need is to show that you spend responsibly within your means and pay bills on time.
2. Paid history of collections > debt in collections -- always.
The point I'm making about bankruptcy has nothing do with my perception of your willingness to pay the debts, I think that shows by you coming here saying you can't already shows that you know you're responsible for it. The fact is that you can't, and without doing that, you're either SOL until they expire, or file a second bankruptcy. That third chance will give you the opportunity to be all over here and learn how to properly manage your finances and credit priveleges, with the knowledge that your income can change dramatatically in a negative direction. Everyone here has taught me to think about being prepared, to get prepared, and to think about credit in the right way. I do not mean that as an insult, it's just something that takes time. Maybe some people start out with it, I certainly didn't, and I know a lot of other people here haven't either.
Please don't take any of this as an attack. It's not. I've done stupid things. I got arrested once because I didn't update my address with the DMV, my registration lapsed without my realizing it, and I got a ticket in the mail at an old address that wasn't forwarded and didn't appear for court. I got picked up on an FTA warrant (which they have no idea what it was for, so I had guns pointed at me, cuffed behind my back, pushed down onto the ground like an actual criminal), and then I spent 4 days in jail because it was a holiday weekend and I got picked up after the judge left on Friday, and Monday was labor day. The same thing happened again later, though I was able to fix it before getting my license suspended. I now ALWAYS update my address with the DMV of everywhere I've ever lived, the IRS, and state offices dealing with state taxes. It took me two instances of not updating my address to do this, and I could have been arrested a second time had I not had a friend look something up for me.
I think the smartest thing for you to do right now, given that you know you will not be able to pay these debts, and do not want your children growing up in an impoverished area, is to talk to a lawyer about filing another bankruptcy. Find resources to get you to a legal clinic that may help you for pennies on the dollar or even for free. I know that stinks, but you'll be in a much better position once it discharges. You have a good resource now (this board) that will help you get on a good track to do it right this time and not need a fourth chance.
It's utlimately up to you, but I know my daughter's safety is my number one priority, and I would do anything to make sure she is safe.
@sarge12 wrote:@Iowakeyorca...If the bankruptcy was a chapter 7 and she recieved discharges, she can not recieve any discharges in any subsequent chapter 7 filings for 8 years. Bankruptcy may not be a viable option.
My mother has filed bankruptcy at least 4 times in the past 10 years. Just because you aren't immediately discharged doesn't mean there aren't benefits. It protects her from being sued and garnished, for one, and secondly, she may be able to file Ch 13 with a monthly payment that works with her income. Also, you can receive a dischard from Ch 13 4 years from the filing of the Ch 7 BK.
I think she needs to go to a legal clinic immediately and find out her actual options, as we have no way to suggest making debts disappear.
@Anonymous wrote:
Yes it was a chapter 7. I wouldn't de able to file BK again for at least 4-5 more years.
Unfortunately in your case, the only suggestion I can come up with is to appeal to an organization that deals in charity for those that are in trouble to help find a better place to live. There are still some around. Bankruptcy was designed to give a second chance, and having already recieved that, your options are limited. Your credit score should be secondary now to the well being of your family. Check into any and all government assistance, and charitable organizations. Keep in mind, there are no debtors prisons, so the lenders ability to do anything is likewise limited. Only waiting until the negatives fall off is likely to improve your score...have you reached out to family?