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nativenyer
Frequent Contributor

Trolling Collections Agencies

I read once that collection agencies will sometimes "troll" your credit report and if they see that you've had a hard pull from a mortgage lender they start adding zombie debt, old accounts, etc. to your credit report.

 

1)  Is this true, at least in some cases and...

 

2) Can you block your credit report so that no one, especially these collection agencies, can't see who has made hard pulls or other info on your report?

 

Thanks!

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itgirl74
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trolling Collections Agencies

I didn't even apply for a mortgate, just for Fingerhut and a Capital One secured CC, and I got a letter from a CA I hadn't heard from in a long while. The letter specifically mentioned that an inquiry had been added to my credit report. I also got a phone call from another creditor. Neither of these is on my credit report yet, so I'm going to do whatever I can do avoid it, which I'm sure is what they're expecting and why they are contacting me now.

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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Trolling Collections Agencies


@nativenyer wrote:

I read once that collection agencies will sometimes "troll" your credit report and if they see that you've had a hard pull from a mortgage lender they start adding zombie debt, old accounts, etc. to your credit report.

 

1)  Is this true, at least in some cases and...

 

2) Can you block your credit report so that no one, especially these collection agencies, can't see who has made hard pulls or other info on your report?

 

Thanks!


Anything past the statuatory reporting limit cannot legally be added back to your CRs to do so is a violation of law, the only exception to this would be the amount of the loan at 150K level they can request a full factual which most likely would reveal all negatives in the last 10 years. Some say they would reveal everything negative back to creation of your file, the CRAs say nope, we dont keep anything around past 10 yrs (Pos or Neg). There are few mortgage lenders who actually use the full factual as its expensive and typically 7 yrs of info is sufficient.  There is no way to block who can see it and who cannot., CAs are actually tipped off by what is called your Collection Score one of the variants of FICO

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RobertEG
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Re: Trolling Collections Agencies

Yes, PROVIDED the debt collector has authority to collect on the debt at the time of their inquiry.

They would have to be either the current owner of the debt, or have assigned collection authority from the current owner.

FCRA 604 expressly provides permissible purpose for pull of your credit report for purposes of collection on a debt, and that permissible purpose does not require any express approval by the consumer.

 

No, you cannot block one having permissilbe purpose from obtaining your credit report.  It is their statutory entitltement.

 

 

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Involver
Valued Contributor

Re: Trolling Collections Agencies

As soon as I got my reports cleaned up and picked up a couple new lines of credit I started getting unknown calls about every other day. No voicemails. So annoying. Im tempted to answer and mess with them but better to just stay off the phone.
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nativenyer
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trolling Collections Agencies

Okay thanks for the advice guys!

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RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Trolling Collections Agencies

You can certainly choose to ignore a debt collector, and you can even send them a cease communication letter under FDCPA 805(c), thus legally barring them from any further calls to you.

 

However, the debt remains until discharged in some fashion, and ignroing the unpaid debt or attempts to collect on it will leave you with an delinquent debt that may still become known to others, even after credit report exclusion, and thus still affect your ability to obtain new credit.

It's a risk you can choose to take......

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nativenyer
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trolling Collections Agencies

Is there any way that you can check to see if you have any outstanding debt out there, somewhere?

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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Trolling Collections Agencies


@nativenyer wrote:

Is there any way that you can check to see if you have any outstanding debt out there, somewhere?


There is nothing I am aware of, the only thing would be to app for a mortgage and see who shows up at the table.. This should be done anyway well in advance of the real mortgage app just for the purpose of bring them out of the woodworks, it gives you the ability to deal with them on your terms opposed to having them come to the table 1 week prior to close of your new mortgage..

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nativenyer
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Re: Trolling Collections Agencies

I definitely plan on getting pre-qualified.

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