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If the OC is showing a balance, I am going to assume the OC still owns them.
I would ask the OC if they will accept payment. You could offer them a PFD, but highly unlikely they will accept.
It would be better to pay OC and keep a CA off your reports than to wait it out trying to get the OC to PFD and end up with a CA reporting.
Tricky question, but here is my advice.
Apparently, the only way you know that the account was placed into collection is the statement from the OC. So the OC hired someone else to do the dirty work. I would thus sit back and wait a bit, for the CA to do something.
The CA is required under section 809(a) of the FDCPA to send you a "dunning" notification" within five days of any initial communication with you about the debt. If they have not called you or effectively communicated their collection activity to you by making a post in your CR, then they dont exist under rights of law. They are delaying, because once they make an initial contact, you can just DV them, and thus shut down all their colletion activities. And, for gods sake, dont call them, for they may assert that they gave you your dunning rights over the phone, thus triggering your 30 days to respond.
I aqree with Sidewinder. Confine your activities to only the OC now, and act as if the CA does not exist. If the OC has told, or continues to tell you, that they have sent it for collection, I would just pleasantly tell them that you have had no contact from any CA, and thus cannot validate with any CA under the FDCPA, so can only continue to deal with them (the OC).
Force the CA to initiate, and hope they dont initiate within the 5-day period. They think we are all stupid.
We once had a medical bill go to collections. Don't really know how; it was a pediatrician and they somehow separated one kid's bill from the others' and this one got missed. Anyway, the pediatric office said it went to a CA and they had no balance, but we never got a notice from the CA. Then blam.... on DH's credit report. I freaked out, emailed the CA, and they agreed to delete upon payment. It turned out fine, but I know I probably shouldn't have done that. They were a small local CA dealing mostly in medical and it wasn't an old bill; maybe that helped.
I'd go with the advice above. There are lots of good people here who give great advice. Good luck!!
ready2buy -
If in fact the OC did SELL the account then their next update to the CRAs will continue to show the account as a CO but the balance will be reduced to $0. The fact that the OC is still reporting a balance is the reasoin that everyone is giving you the advice to get them to work with you.
When you are calling are you simply dialing an 800 number and talking to any CSR that happens to answer? If this is a major company then most likely they will have a recovery dept and they could probably help you more or at the very least talk to a manager or supervisor when you call.
Good Luck.
ready2buy wrote:
I contacted the OC and was told that the account is in collections, but the OC shows a balance and the CA is not reporting. If the OC will not deal with me because the account was sold to a CA, can I pay the CA and ask them not to report because they currently arent reporting? If the CA agrees not to report (and I will get this in writing) and I PIF, what will happen to the OC? How will they report? I'm confused on this one but I need to tackle this ASAP. All help is welcomed.
You really need to find out if it was sold to a CA or if the OC just hired a CA to collect.
You can send the CA a modified PFD asking the CA to agree to not report in exchange for payment in full.
Once it is paid, the OC will have to show a $0 balance. It will say something to the effect of "payment after charge off" or if they sold the account it may show a $0 balance and say "sold/transferred,etc".