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Lessons learned the hard way!

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Lessons learned the hard way!

My 17 yr son has had own bank account since he was 15 along with his Visa check card. The day before school was to end for the summer I was reviewing his account online as I usually do on a weekly basis to make sure he isn't making frivolous purchases. There were 7 holds on his account from Verizon Wireless and 2 charges totaling 129.00 had posted. He was at work and I had no way to reach him ( cell phones prohibited ) so I called the CU and had then cancel the card so no more charges could be made. We are under contract with Suncom, but I asked him if he had used his card online or gone to a Verizon store, he said no.
 
My banks card services rep gave me the number for Verizon's Fraud department. When I called the guy asked where I got his number. I told him my bank retains names & phone numbers from fraud departments they have had previous fraud transactions from. I asked for the money to be credited back and he said I would have to go through my banks fraud department. I asked if I gave him the transaction number if he could look up what phone number these purchases were applied to. He said I can't give you that information that would be a violation to our customers privacy. I was appalled with that explanation. He went on to tell me the police is the only one that could obtain the customers information. So then I asked him "why" Verizon don't ask for the 3 digit security code since every merchant I pay by phone, online etc asked for the security code. He said Verizon & other companies are working closely with the FCR to reduce these charges. I asked him for his name and direct number should I need to call him in the future which he kindly gave me. However when he called my banks card services he jumped down her throat and told her to never give customers the fraud department phone numbers to the banks customers.
 
I asked where someone may have had access to his card number since the only place he uses it is Taco Bell, Walmart & gas station. He said a few students were talking about Visa cards and he said he needed to get a new one since his has several cracks in it. One student had him to pull his card out to examine it. She snatched the card from his hand and said here I'll show you a magic trick and put a piece of paper over it. He didn't see what she did but other students said the girl took a pencil over the face and transferred the numbers to the paper. I few days later all these charges showed up on his account. We had to go to the bank and fill out debit fraud papers and file a police report. While we were at the bank they tried an additional 7 times to make other purchases.The bank has done a provisional credit for the charges and the police has this girl as a suspect. The last day of school she came to school with a new Verizon phone & a new digital camera.Don't know the likely hood of them prosecuting her but I hope they do to teach her a lesson. As for my son, he learned a valuable lesson as well unless you are making a purchase keep your card in your wallet!
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That is a bad situation to be in. What is worse is that a 16 or 17 year old knew to do something like that. And perhaps thought would never get caught. Personally, I would not hesitate to file charges against her if they find she is the one who did this. Not doing so could make her think she can get by with this kind of thing.

A few years ago I had a charge of $217 from Verizon come out of my account. It was done as a POS in Virginia, I live in WA state. I was told it was done in person, not over the internet. Never even been there. My bank gave me a provisional credit but would not refund the overdraft charges since they did not cause the error.

I changed banks later due to their customer service, or lack of.

Good luck.
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I would have changed banks in your situation also!
I have been a member at this CU for close to 10 years and anytime I need anything or have a problem ( rarely ) they are very good to work with! We were lucky, I transfer most of his money to his savings account so it will earn a lil bit of interest so there was like 100.00 in his checking which was drained and they commenced to draw from his savings account.
 
Since this happened at school and there is a county officer posted at every school in our county I was asked to call the school and see the officer there at the school. When I called ahead to let him know we would be on the way there they put me through to the school principal since the officer was out getting married LOL anyhow when I told the principal what student it was he was shocked and didn't believe it. I said well you have camera's in all the class rooms and I do hope the feed will be available for this investigation by the police department. He said yes and he still couldn't believe this student was the suspect because her mother is a professor at our local college. Come to find out this student was adopted a few years ago and has been suspended from school 3 times and gone to jail once for fighting, so we know she isn't an angel by any means. I haven't heard anything back from the police, don't know if there is anything else we need to do. From my understanding the bank will be the one to prosecute not us.
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That is a little unusual for Verizon. When I pay my bill by phone, I even have to enter the 3-digit security code on my keypad! That guy sounds like a tool.
 
I had the same thing happen last summer. My purse was stolen from my car & the jerks went to Target & spent $600 in one transaction. That's because Target cashiers never even see your card or physically handle it when it's run. The machine takes it & spits it back out & there is no type of verification at all. The only reason they didn't run it for another $300 is because my CC detected fraud activity & declined the purchases. I had been to the same Target earlier that day and already spent $200.
 
But that didn't stop them from filling up twice at gas stations as they crossed CA & ended up in Las Vegas. Not one place ever asked for any type of ID.
 
It was the worst.
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I know that once a report is filed, prosecuting or not is in the hands of the DA. As a victim, you have no say.

Unfortunately, I learned this first hand several years ago. When my daughter was 12 or 13, two older girls on the school bus physically assaulted her. No reason, they just felt like doing it. As soon as she got home and her and the entire bus of kids came to me and told me what happened, I went to the school. My daughter and the other bus kids let them know who the girls were, she had to write a statement at the school and the police station. Took her to the hospital to get checked out. Nothing broken but really bruised.

She did not see the girls in school for awhile. The immediately got suspended.

At any rate, after this long winded story, I never heard any thing for months. Then one day the DAs Office called and told me both of the girls had been found guilty and would serve time in the juvenile hall. I told him I did not press charges and I was told it did not matter. The severity of the situation prompted them to prosecute them. (They beat my daughter with glass soda bottles).

Bus driver as well got in trouble for not pulling over and stopping them. Thank goodness there was a camera on the bus.
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I hope you got everything worked out Ivy. It's a shame that merchants never ask for ID when a CC is being used. I rarely get asked for my ID when making purchases. The only place that I know of that does ask me for ID is Lowes.That needs to be changed to where it's mandatory for merchants to ask for ID and if they don't then the clerk/store should be held liable for fraudulent purchases IMO! If this was enforced we might would see this side of card fraud decline!
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OMG that is terrible! With u tube now on the internet kids have gotten entirely out of control as far as abusing other students. It makes me sick to see a video on Nacy Grace of girls more so than boys beating other girls up for a quick 2 minute u tube slot. I'm glad the girls that beat your daughter were prosecuted!
I worry about this with my daughter riding the bus. She is a mini me and always has to get the last word and would argue with a fence post if you painted a set of lips on it! I now make her ride home with my son most days. Its a shame kids can't just be kids anymore!
 
So I guess I'll wait and see if anyone calls me from the police department about this. Thanks for giving me an idea of what to expect.
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