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Marty,
Sounds like I found the right person for one of my questions! 50 minutes for both is $150 or 85 minutes for both is $220. And I looked again and it is NOT in the room; its about a block away from the B & B at a dayspa. Now what do you think for tip?
Marty & all,
Still need to figure out what to expect for tip at a B&B.
Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!
(Even though I am planning this as a present for DH, I feel like I'm getting a present just getting to plan it. We NEVER get to get away. We have a hard time being consistent with a once-a-month date night. So, part of me wants to go "all out" but I am trying to prioritize and be reasonable. Okay, not really reasonable - that would mean not spending the money at all. Trying to not go nuts!)
Whenever you receive a service such as this or whenever you go out to eat, get your hair cut etc. All these people make very little off the amount you pay for the service.
I use to be a waiter and to my surprise, many people don't know how little the restaurant pays their servers. I know you're talking about a massage and not eating out but the two are comparable - they are two professions that rely on tips to make their money. Marty provided an example for the therapist but here is an example of a run of a mill server. The restaurant pays their servers far less than the minimum wage. When I use to wait tables I made a whopping $2.50. Like every other employee the government takes it's share for taxes, Medicare etc so by the time they get their pay check it's almost nothing. I remember getting around a $50 check for a 40 hour work week. Just imagine that for a second. I worked with servers who would let their weekly checks accumulate for weeks before going to cash them because the dollar amount was so small.
Point is 15% of any service is generaly a good enough tip. What people don't realize is in a type of profession where you receive tips as your main income vs a paycheck you can actually lose money by performing a service if you don't get a large enough tip. The government will tax you whether you receive a tip or not and it's based off the total amount charged.
@Paxx wrote:Whenever you receive a service such as this or whenever you go out to eat, get your hair cut etc. All these people make very little off the amount you pay for the service.
I use to be a waiter and to my surprise, many people don't know how little the restaurant pays their servers. I know you're talking about a massage and not eating out but the two are comparable - they are two professions that rely on tips to make their money. Marty provided an example for the therapist but here is an example of a run of a mill server. The restaurant pays their servers far less than the minimum wage. When I use to wait tables I made a whopping $2.50. Like every other employee the government takes it's share for taxes, Medicare etc so by the time they get their pay check it's almost nothing. I remember getting around a $50 check for a 40 hour work week. Just imagine that for a second. I worked with servers who would let their weekly checks accumulate for weeks before going to cash them because the dollar amount was so small.
Point is 15% of any service is generaly a good enough tip. What people don't realize is in a type of profession where you receive tips as your main income vs a paycheck you can actually lose money by performing a service if you don't get a large enough tip. The government will tax you whether you receive a tip or not and it's based off the total amount charged.
i know that waiters/waitresses depend on tips most (if not all) of the time, but i'm not going to tip people well if a) they did a crappy job, or b) for doing the bare minimum. i almost never leave without tipping a person, but if someone is rude or ignores our table all night, they are definitely shooting themselves in the foot.
this topic is a heated discussion in our area, where most of the jobs are customer service & a lot of people DO depend on tips.
Well of course, you tip based off of the service you receive.
There is very little that merits a no tip however. The service would have to absolutely horrible for a no tip (or $1.00 tip which is just as much a slap in the face). He didn't get my refill as soon as I put my cup down is not a reason to forgo the tip.
@Paxx wrote:Well of course, you tip based off of the service you receive.
There is very little that merits a no tip however. The service would have to absolutely horrible for a no tip (or $1.00 tip which is just as much a slap in the face). He didn't get my refill as soon as I put my cup down is not a reason to forgo the tip.
it is very rare that i will "stiff" someone. one instance that comes to mind is when a group of us went out for pizza (about 6 of us). our waiter had someone else come & take our drink order. that same someone else took our food order, & still another person came to bring us our pizzas. my gf even had to get up & ASK for a refill. that guy came to the table once the whole time, & we were there for almost 2 hours. it was ridiculous.
of course, it is up to each individual what they feel "merits a no tip."
@laz98 wrote:
@Paxx wrote:Whenever you receive a service such as this or whenever you go out to eat, get your hair cut etc. All these people make very little off the amount you pay for the service.
I use to be a waiter and to my surprise, many people don't know how little the restaurant pays their servers. I know you're talking about a massage and not eating out but the two are comparable - they are two professions that rely on tips to make their money. Marty provided an example for the therapist but here is an example of a run of a mill server. The restaurant pays their servers far less than the minimum wage. When I use to wait tables I made a whopping $2.50. Like every other employee the government takes it's share for taxes, Medicare etc so by the time they get their pay check it's almost nothing. I remember getting around a $50 check for a 40 hour work week. Just imagine that for a second. I worked with servers who would let their weekly checks accumulate for weeks before going to cash them because the dollar amount was so small.
Point is 15% of any service is generaly a good enough tip. What people don't realize is in a type of profession where you receive tips as your main income vs a paycheck you can actually lose money by performing a service if you don't get a large enough tip. The government will tax you whether you receive a tip or not and it's based off the total amount charged.
i know that waiters/waitresses depend on tips most (if not all) of the time, but i'm not going to tip people well if a) they did a crappy job, or b) for doing the bare minimum. i almost never leave without tipping a person, but if someone is rude or ignores our table all night, they are definitely shooting themselves in the foot.
this topic is a heated discussion in our area, where most of the jobs are customer service & a lot of people DO depend on tips.
I agree that minimum service does not deserve maximum reward....more like minimum wage. But if we consider that they make about $2.50 per hour, then I try to formulate that if they had a normal paying job in which they waited on me, like a check out person, how much time did I represent approximately. If I am in the restaurant for an hour, then I want to make sure I contribute to them making at least minimum wage, since that wage is not for anything of stellar performance.
Fast food places pay minimum wage. The service in fast food is generally bland, straight forward and hurried. If my sit down server acts this way, then I may pay them like a fast food worker. I don't require them to spend oodles of time or hang out at my table, but a cheerful dispotion, keeping my drink filled, checking in regularly and taking note of other needs will get them a nice "bonus" when it comes time for me to pay their tip.
And with that in mind, for those who are in service, I LIKE to pay well, I just want to be treated well. Service is a very discretionary expenditure...so give your patrons good reason to tip you well! And thanks for it!
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Thank you, all, for the helpful input. All in all, I raised a little over $300 for our getaway (been selling books). A little over half of that will go for the B&B where there will be chocolate covered strawberries in our room (Yum!) and, of course, a full gourmet breakfast the next morning. Since I would need $180 with tip for the massages, I've decided its just not in the cards. (Literally! Both of our birthdays are in the next couple of days so I was half hopeful I might get some birthday money to "put me over the top".) I will take DH for a nice dinner the night that we are there and take him to a movie and a nice lunch after we leave. Truthfully, he may be almost as excited about a movie as a massage since, with our kids and our schedule, it is SOOO hard to ever go to the theatre. (But, man, it would have been nice to get a massage...)
Any suggestions for good movies out right now? I feel like I've been stuck in a hole and have no clue what's out right now.