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3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth

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keekers
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3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth

At the end of March I opened three new cards (2 reporting since one is a business card).  I fully expected to take some score damage for 3 inquiries (Chase also double pulled me), 2 new accounts  and a bump in utilization from 0% to 4% (~34% on one card ...I loaded up ~$6500).  I waited until today to pull my newest reports to account for the lag in card reporting and inquiry scoring (I didn't even know that was a thing). 

The new accounts also dropped my AAoA to 7 years 4 months but to my surprise the FICO 8 score impacts were minimal and even positive:

 

EX: -3pts (770 to 767)

EQ: No change (766)

TU: +1pt (759 to 760)

 

 



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JoeRockhead
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: 3 new credit cards opened - Score Change Datapoints for whatever it's worth

I would call those pretty favorable results, very nice.

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 3 new accounts - Score Change DPs for whatever it's worth


@keekers wrote:

At the end of March I opened three new cards (2 reporting since one is a business card).  I fully expected to take some score damage for 3 inquiries (Chase also double pulled me), 2 new accounts  and a bump in utilization from 0% to 4% (~34% on one card ...I loaded up ~$6500).  I waited until today to pull my newest reports to account for the lag in card reporting and inquiry scoring (I didn't even know that was a thing). 

The new accounts also dropped my AAoA to 7 years 4 months but to my surprise the FICO 8 score impacts were minimal and even positive:

 

EX: -3pts (770 to 767)

EQ: No change (766)

TU: +1pt (759 to 760)

 

 


Thanks for the info. Yeah, I too would have expected to see a little more damage Smiley Happy Very nice.

 

Enjoy your new cards.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth

I would have expected a 4-6 point hit for the CRAs receiving an inquiry if a bin was crossed. If the double hit was for the same card, it likely only counts as one.

 

The stated utilization change is a bit confusing. If you were truely zero (no cards with any balances) your score would be hit with a no recent revolving activity penalty 15-20 points is typical. If atleast 1 card had a small balance (say $5 or more), that penalty would not be assessed.

 

An aggregate utilization of 4% is below any penalty threshold I am aware of. An individual card utilization above 29% can trigger a penalty but often does not. When I had an open mortgage, individual card utilization had to exceed 49% (54% for my data point) before seeing a UT specific score drop.

 

Switching to a new accounts scorecard often results in a 15-20 point penalty. However, if you already had an account under 12 months then opening new ones won't affect score - no double jeopardy for new accounts.

 

Did you have an account under 12 months previously? On your prior score pull did you have any accounts with balances?

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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FireMedic1
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: 3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth

Going from 0% reporting to 4% helped. Always have a min of 1% reporting.



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keekers
Valued Contributor

Re: 3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

I would have expected a 4-6 point hit for the CRAs receiving an inquiry if a bin was crossed. If the double hit was for the same card, it likely only counts as one.

 

The stated utilization change is a bit confusing. If you were truely zero (no cards with any balances) your score would be hit with a no recent revolving activity penalty 25-20 points is typical. If atleast 1 card had a small balance (say $5 or more), that penalty would not have been assessed.

 

An aggregate utilization of 4% is below any penalty threshold I am aware of. An individual card utilization above 29% can trigger a penalty but often does not. When I had an open mortgage, individual card utilization had to exceed 49% (54% for my data point) before seeing a UT specific score drop.

 

Swirching to a new accounts scorecard often results in a 15-20 point penalty. However, if you already had an account under 12 months then opening new ones won't affect score - no double jeopardy for new accounts.

 

Did you have an account under 12 months previously? On your prior score pull did you have any accounts with balances?


@Thomas_Thumb to clarify...I always have one card that reports a small balance but it rounds to 0% utilization.  No new revolvers in almost two years but I did have a new loan opened last September.



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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth

Thanks,

 

Good data point on the new account under 12 months being a loan vs revolver. It lends some skepticism to the majority opinion that only AoYA for revolvers (AoYRA) is used for the new credit scorecard.

 

Fico presentations do not specify type of AoYA.

 

BTW my post above incorrectly mentioned 25-20. It should have been 15-20 for the no recent revolving activity penalty. Also *switching* not *swirching*. I  corrected the typos.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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markbeiser
Established Contributor

Re: 3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth


@keekers wrote:

No new revolvers in almost two years but I did have a new loan opened last September.

You already had the big ding for a new account and inquiry in the past 12 months.
There isn't much of a ding for more new accounts, unless you go ham with it.

Back to gardening until Late February 2026.
Current FICO8:
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CorpCrMgr1
Valued Contributor

Re: 3 new accounts - Score DPs for whatever it's worth

@keekers good scores!!

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