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dytch2220
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850 FICO Score

Is anyone aware of someone actually having achieved an 850 FICO score.  Does anyone know what it would actually take?  Curious...

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MarineVietVet
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Re: 850 FICO Score

I've been trying to find a story I had read about 850 FICO scores. I guess I saved it in such a safe place I can't find it now.  Smiley Happy

 

I believe it said that a very small percentage of the population (I'm thinking it was 2-3% but I could be wrong about that) have achieved a score of 850. Hopefully someone else will be able to supply the source for that.

 

How does one go about doing that? Here is post I stole borrowed from HTSU.

 

Characteristics of FICO® High Achievers (FICO scores of 760 and above)

Account age:

 

oldest account: FICO High Achievers opened their oldest account 19 years ago, on average.

average account age: Most FICO High Achievers have an average age of accounts between 6 and 12 years.

oldest revolving account: FICO High Achievers opened their first revolving account 19 years ago, on average.

average revolving age:

age of newest account: FICO High Achievers opened their most recent account 27 months ago, on average (from MidnightVoice's post)

Number of accounts reporting: 

number of accounts currently being paid as agreed: FICO High Achievers have an average of 6 accounts currently paid as agreed. (number of open accounts that are currently not late, etc --incl mortgage, etc. Got + for having 8.)

total number of accounts: Your FICO score takes into account the number of accounts (such as credit cards or installment loans) on your credit report. You have a large number of accounts. In general, people who have a large number of accounts pose more of a risk to lenders than people with a moderate number of accounts. (On a TU report, reported by BobSki778 on 4/8/08)

number of accounts carrying a balance: FICO High Achievers have an average of 3 credit accounts carrying a balance. (Note: this is on all types of credit, not just CC's. Got - with 5 accounts: 2 CC's, mortgage, HELOC, student loan; got + with 4 accounts: 1 CC, mort, HELOC, SL--these out of a total of 8 accounts)

Utilization:

Revolving util: For FICO High Achievers, this ratio is 7%, on average.

Installment util: Most FICO High Score Achievers have paid down on average 35% of the original amount of the loan, in addition to the fact that on average they usually owe less than $1200 on their non-mortgage accounts (found on a search)

Inquiries:

Inquiries: About 72% of FICO High Achievers did not apply for credit in the past year. Of those that did, about 20% applied for credit just once. (got with 2 inqs--EQ, didn't get with only 1 on other reports)

Mix of accounts:Your FICO score evaluates your mix of credit cards, installment loans, and mortgages. People who demonstrate responsible use of different types of credit are generally less risky to lenders. (found on a search)

Revolving:

Number of credit cards: FICO High Achievers have an average of 4 to 5 credit cards (including open and closed cards, bank cards and department store cards). (found on a search)

Recent CC use: Your FICO score evaluates your mix of credit cards, installment loans and mortgages. People who demonstrate responsible use of different types of credit are generally less risky to lenders. You helped your FICO score by showing recent use of a credit card. (comment only, no percentage given)

Balance reported on CC's: Your FICO score evaluates how much you owe on your revolving accounts (such as your credit cards). The amount you owe on these accounts is too high. Most FICO High Achievers owe less than $600 on revolving accounts such as credit cards and department store cards. (on Phoenix-rising's report)

Installment:

Consumer finance account: Only 12% of FICO High Achievers have a consumer finance account. (found on a search)

Remaining balance: Most FICO High Achievers carry a total balance of less than $1200 on non-mortgage accounts. (found on a search)

Alternate average balance:Your FICO® score considers how much you owe on your credit accounts, such as revolving credit accounts and non-mortgage installment loans. Generally, the more you owe on these accounts, the greater risk you pose to lenders. FICO® High Achievers have an average total balance of $5000 on non-mortgage accounts.  (contributed by JayToo 01/05/2008)

Late payments:

any lates: About 93% of FICO High Achievers have no missed payments at all. But of those who do have a missed payment, it happened nearly 4 years ago, on average.

60-day or longer: Very few FICO High Achievers, about 1%, have a 60 days late payment or worse listed on their credit report.

"bad payment history" --multiple accounts with lates: About 93% of FICO High Achievers have no missed payments at all. But of those who do have a missed payment, it happened nearly 4 years ago, on average. (Got this with lates on 3 three different revolving accounts)

Other derogatories:

Virtually no FICO High Achievers have a public record or a collection listed on their credit report.



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dytch2220
Regular Contributor

Re: 850 FICO Score

Awesome, thanks for the great info.  If you do find that other story, please share it.

 

It looks like I'll need several years to get into the High Achievers club.  That or a lot of success with PFDs and GWs.

 

I think the best thing I have learned from my own failure is the importance of making sure I start teaching my daughter how to do things right with finances at a young age so I can set her up to take the right path later on.  I'm going to have her start saving as soon as she understands the concept.  I've thought of showing her how and then paying her an allowance to be my personal accountant (I'd be checking her work, of course).

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vanillabean
Valued Contributor

Re: 850 FICO Score

 


@dytch2220 wrote:

Is anyone aware of someone actually having achieved an 850 FICO score.  Does anyone know what it would actually take?  Curious...


 

 

Craig Watts says, "For a broad section of the population, it probably isn't possible, even if they do everything right."

 

I've read it's really hard to go beyond 825. Haven't seen anyone in these forums with an EQ or TU of 830 or higher.

 

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dytch2220
Regular Contributor

Re: 850 FICO Score

Great article!  Informative and funny.  I'll be satisfied when I get all 3 reports above 760 plus a little padding.

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: 850 FICO Score

I've found one article about this. I'm not sure if it's what I originally read. I was off by several percentage points. It says less than 1% of the U.S. population (about 1 million people) do have a score of 850. That's what I get for going from memory.  Smiley Happy

 

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From a BK years ago to:
EX - 9/09 pulled by lender 802, EQ - 10/10-813, TU - 10/10-774

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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Anonymous
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Re: 850 FICO Score

I do find it a mystery at times! My score just dropped 2 points because of $65 charge on a department store credit card. I had a high score of 813 but even after paying off my mortgage and with no outstanding revolving credit it has not gone up but down - hey I'm debt free so I'm not concerned. 

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clocktick
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Re: 850 FICO Score


@MarineVietVet wrote:



Revolving:

Number of credit cards: FICO High Achievers have an average of 4 to 5 credit cards (including open and closed cards, bank cards and department store cards). (found on a search)


 

Wow, I have a long, long way to go to have only 4-5 open AND closed cards on my CRs, haha.  I probably have dozens of old closed accounts. 

 

11/30/08 TU 648 EX 672 EQ 656 SEPT 2014 TU 787 EX 789 EQ ???
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Current Score: 736
Goal Score: 765


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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: 850 FICO Score


@clocktick wrote:

@MarineVietVet wrote:



Revolving:

Number of credit cards: FICO High Achievers have an average of 4 to 5 credit cards (including open and closed cards, bank cards and department store cards). (found on a search)


 

Wow, I have a long, long way to go to have only 4-5 open AND closed cards on my CRs, haha.  I probably have dozens of old closed accounts. 

 


I have 7 open CC accounts and I'm not sure how many closed accounts I have so obviously my total is alot more than 4-5. I guess that rule doesn't always apply.  Smiley Happy

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 9/09 pulled by lender 802, EQ - 10/10-813, TU - 10/10-774

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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