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SRT4kid93
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AZEO data point

Tested to see what would happen if I went from 1 acct with balances to 2. I lost 12 points. 

aggregate util went from 2% to 5%, not enough to trigger a point loss, the good news is, I made sure to test this theory with my chase card, so I can easily pay it off and my score will bounce back. If I wanted to.

 

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JoeRockhead
Community Leader
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Re: AZEO data point

I always like science experiments... you went into the, over 50% of revolving accounts reporting balances penalty box. 

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Jeffster1
Valued Contributor

Re: AZEO data point


@SRT4kid93 wrote:

Tested to see what would happen if I went from 1 acct with balances to 2. I lost 12 points. 

aggregate util went from 2% to 5%, not enough to trigger a point loss, the good news is, I made sure to test this theory with my chase card, so I can easily pay it off and my score will bounce back. If I wanted to.

 


I have over 300K in CL, and typically carry a single $3 balance on one card. However, even when I carry a small balance on one or two other cards concurrently, I do not lose any points. 

0% utilization
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Kforce
Valued Contributor

Re: AZEO data point


@JoeRockhead wrote:

I always like science experiments... you went into the, over 50% of revolving accounts reporting balances penalty box. 


^^^ This

2/3 cards  > 50%

 

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FicoMike0
Senior Contributor

Re: AZEO data point

@Jeffster1 

In the interest of science, let one more than 50% if your cards report a few dollars. 😁😁

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Jeffster1
Valued Contributor

Re: AZEO data point


@FicoMike0 wrote:

@Jeffster1 

In the interest of science, let one more than 50% if your cards report a few dollars. 😁😁


Get a life. 🙄

0% utilization
FICO 8 EX 829 EQ 839 TU 844
American Express Blue Cash Preferred 30K I American Express Blue Cash Everyday 25K I American Express Delta Skymiles 13.9K I American Express Schwab Investor Card 5K I Bank of America Customized Cash Rewards Visa 30K | Kinecta MyPerks Rewards MC 35K | Wells Fargo BILT World Elite MC 30K I BMO Harris Cash Back MasterCard 12K | Capital One QS MC 12.5K I NFCU Flagship Rewards Visa 52K I NFCU Amex 28K I Citi Best Buy Visa 10K I Macy’s Amex 25K I Bread Financial American Express 15.5K I AAA Daily Advantage Visa Signature 8.5K I Saks Fifth Avenue World Elite MC 10.8K I Citi Dillard’s Visa 5K I JCPenney Mastercard 10K I Synchrony Premier Mastercard 10K I UCLA Wescom CU Rewards Visa 7K I Pottery Barn Visa 5K I PayPal Cash Back Visa 15K I MyWalgreens Mastercard 10K I TD Bank Double Up Visa 5K I USBank Cash Visa 5K I Gemini Bitcoin Mastercard 15K I
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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: AZEO data point


@Jeffster1 wrote:



I have over 300K in CL, and typically carry a single $3 balance on one card. However, even when I carry a small balance on one or two other cards concurrently, I do not lose any points. 


Wow! That's impressive micromanagement.

 

You should be able to report small balances on 5 or 6 cards without negatively impacting score. Small meaning under 9% of each card's CL.

 

AZE1 is a useful score optimization strategy for thin files, particularly young ones. It's not really value add for thick files where multiple cards can report without a score penalty.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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mgood
Valued Contributor

Re: AZEO data point


@FicoMike0 wrote:

@Jeffster1 

In the interest of science, let one more than 50% if your cards report a few dollars. 😁😁


I have. When I'm AZE2, AZE3, AZE4, I don't see much, if any, difference. At AZE12 (of 18 cards) it is noticeably worse even with aggregate utilization in the 4%-5% range. I don't have exact numbers because there's usually multiple things changing so I can't pinpoint exactly what caused what. But a few showing balances? No biggie. Most showing balances? Not good.



EQ8 778, TU8 764, EX8 776 as of August 31
AZE10 - 6% Utl - New Cards: 1/6, 3/12, 6/24
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