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About to see my first all zero penalty - UPDATE #2

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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: About to see my first all zero penalty


@Horseshoez wrote:

I'm busy to the point of not having the time or energy (or even inclination) to practice, so I simply PIF my cards a few days before the due date and move on.  Most months I end up AZEO or AZE2 as a few latent charges trickle in between my payment and the statement; this month I'm going to get hit with the All-Zero penalty for the fourth time in the last two years.  No worries though, my scores will most likely bounce back next month.  Smiley Happy


Update...

 

So, apparently I lied.  Smiley Tongue  Unexpecedly an annual subscription to a rewards membership for a retailer I frequent hit my "sockdrawered" PenFed card which in turn meant I didn't get hit with an AZ penalty.  Here we are a month later having just completed a 3,000 mile road trip through two Canadian provinces and seven states, incurring numerous charges for hotels, dining, fuel, and other sundries, and my habit of paying in full prior to each due date yielded not AZ, not AZEO, not AZE2, but AZE3; yes, three of my five revolvers showed small/trivial balances for latent charges which posted after I'd PIFed my cards.  As for my scores?  Not completely sure as I stopped subscribing to a service to get all of the FICO scores once my Chapter 13 fell off my reports last year so the only current FICO score I have available is FICO 8 from EX, would you believe it went up 4 points?  Go figure.

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: About to see my first all zero penalty

EX Fico 8 is insensitive to # of cards with balances. On the other hand, TU and particularly EQ would penalize for AZE3, perhaps 5-8 points given you have 5 cards. Too bad no comparison data is available.

 

Going from AZE1 to AZE3 on EX should be score neutral so something else was in play.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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