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Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report

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Slabenstein
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report


@Anonymous wrote:

According to myfico it is 53rd they say 2018 but the account was opened in 2015 it was a credit card and I was a authorized user.

yes it is on all three 


Hm.  The reason I asked the above questions is that aging changes, which occur on the first of the month, are a common cause for credit score changes that don't appear to have a reason, and the date range during which this change occured includes May 1.  Unless an account has fallen off of a person's report, the only real way that aging can cause a negative change is when, on a clean file, the oldest account aging to three years causes scorecard reassignment, resulting in a temporary score drop.  Normally, you'd see it across all three bureaus unless a bureau had an account the others didn't.

 

So, from what you said, it's still a possibility that that's what happened here if the AU account is reporting strangely between the bureaus, but it could also not be and we need to look at a few more things:

 

1) Do you have any delinquencies more severe than isolated 30D's?  (Forgot to ask that earlier.)

 

2) What date in 2018 does MyFICO say the AU account was opened?

 

3) On your reports pulled directly from www.annualcreditreport.com, what is listed for the open date of the AU account in question on each bureau?


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Anonymous
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report

Last night I pulled all three from annualcreditreport

1) Do you have any delinquencies more severe than isolated 30D's?  (Forgot to ask that earlier.)
yes, 53rd credit card I am in the process of trying to get the issue resolved, I can give you more info if it is helpful.
transunion 60 days 02/20 - 60 days 01/20 
Experian - doesn't appear 
Equifax - 60 days 01/20  

 

2) What date in 2018 does MyFICO say the AU account was opened?

Feb 2018  is as far back as the payment record goes but the open date was 05/2014

 

3) On your reports pulled directly from www.annualcreditreport.com, what is listed for the open date of the AU account in question on each bureau?
Equifax - 20th May 2014
Experian - no record 

Transunion - 20th May 2014 

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Slabenstein
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report


@Anonymous wrote:

Last night I pulled all three from annualcreditreport

1) Do you have any delinquencies more severe than isolated 30D's?  (Forgot to ask that earlier.)
yes, 53rd credit card I am in the process of trying to get the issue resolved, I can give you more info if it is helpful.
transunion 60 days 02/20 - 60 days 01/20 
Experian - doesn't appear 
Equifax - 60 days 01/20  

 

2) What date in 2018 does MyFICO say the AU account was opened?

Feb 2018  is as far back as the payment record goes but the open date was 05/2014

 

3) On your reports pulled directly from www.annualcreditreport.com, what is listed for the open date of the AU account in question on each bureau?
Equifax - 20th May 2014
Experian - no record 

Transunion - 20th May 2014 


So the only lates are on the 5/3rd AU card, and that tradeline doesn't appear on your Experian ACR?  What your oldest tradeline on that report, and what was its open date?


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Anonymous
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report

yes the only lates are with 53rd

the only other issue with my report is a medical collection in 2019

yes it doesn't appear on the experian credit report  
oldest tradeline on experian is an American express credit card going back to Oct 2014 I was a AU on that card as well

Message 14 of 19
Slabenstein
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report


@Anonymous wrote:

yes the only lates are with 53rd

the only other issue with my report is a medical collection in 2019

yes it doesn't appear on the experian credit report  
oldest tradeline on experian is an American express credit card going back to Oct 2014 I was a AU on that card as well


What's the amount of the medical collection and when was the oldest non-AU tradeline on your EX report opened?


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Anonymous
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report

medical collection $352 

jpmcb credit card - 11/2020

Message 16 of 19
Slabenstein
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report

Okay, the +$100 medical collection on EX means that that bureau is also on a dirty card, so it couldn't be scorecard reassignment to mature, even if the open date for either oldest line or oldest non-AU line had been 5/2018.  But there was something that happened on your EX report (and probably not the other two) between 4/30 and 5/7 that caused a score drop.  If you want to post your complete profile data for each bureau from before and after the score change, we can help you look through it and see if there's anything else there that would help explain it.


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Anonymous
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report

Okay understood, what's a "dirty card"?

 

Message 18 of 19
Slabenstein
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Re: Account balance decrease has had a strange effect on credit report


@Anonymous wrote:

Okay understood, what's a "dirty card"?

 


FICO divides profiles into different scorecards based on information in the profile, and a scorecard is just an algorithm that weights things in a profile differently than the other scorecards for the same version.  FICO8 has 12 scorecards, four of which are for profiles with derogatories worse than isolated 30D.  Those four are called "dirty" cards, and the eight for profiles w/o such a derogatory are called "clean".  You can read more about it in @Anonymous's excellent scoring primer.


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