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I'm trying to understand the reports I just pulled from myFICO. In the Summary area, it says Amount of Debt - Not Good. When I go to the next section - Understanding Your FICO Score, it lists 3 things hurting my score 1) Ratio of revolving balances to credit limits 2) Newest account opened 5 months ago 3) Number of accounts with a missed payment. Only time can fix #2 and #3, and #1 is very straight-forward.
None of these 3 have to do with my total amount of debt, which is what I thought was the worst thing shown in the Summary area. So I am confused about where to focus.
Are there certain types of debt that are less damaging than others? Is Mortgage debt treated different vs.Auto Loan debt vs. Student Loan debt vs. unsecured non-revolving debt vs. revolving debt?
How do the # accounts play into the score? Does student loan consolidation help (reducing say 9 accounts into 1)?
I also get the 'amount of debt not good' thingy.
- I have one car loan currently always paid on time. Bought car Nov 2010,
- A mortgage always on time
- 3 closed BoA cards;closed in 2007 but on a payment plan and on each card about 15% of total util left to pay
- 1 Cap card with 70% util
- 1 cap card with 0 util
- 1 bestbuy card with 0 util
- 1 collection of $80 which will be paid soon hopwfullt PFD
Amount of debt not good in my case prob means im at 70% on my cap one? Or the 3 charged off from BoA?
@Anonymous wrote:I'm trying to understand the reports I just pulled from myFICO. In the Summary area, it says Amount of Debt - Not Good. When I go to the next section - Understanding Your FICO Score, it lists 3 things hurting my score 1) Ratio of revolving balances to credit limits 2) Newest account opened 5 months ago 3) Number of accounts with a missed payment. Only time can fix #2 and #3, and #1 is very straight-forward.
None of these 3 have to do with my total amount of debt, which is what I thought was the worst thing shown in the Summary area. So I am confused about where to focus.
Are there certain types of debt that are less damaging than others? Is Mortgage debt treated different vs.Auto Loan debt vs. Student Loan debt vs. unsecured non-revolving debt vs. revolving debt?
How do the # accounts play into the score? Does student loan consolidation help (reducing say 9 accounts into 1)?
Hi GolfNut!
The "ratio of revolving balances to credit limits" is specifically talking about revolving *debt*. It' your reported utilization. For example:
Credit Card 1 | Credit Limit = 1000 | Balance = $900 | utilization (or the ratio of your revolving balance to the limit) = 90%... Too high/Not good.
Credit Card 2 | Credit Limit = 1000 | Balance = $300 | utilization (or the ratio of your revolving balance to the limit) = 30%... Better, but much higher than recommended
Your ratio of revolving balances to credit limits would be 60% (too high/not good)
@Anonymous wrote:I'm trying to understand the reports I just pulled from myFICO. In the Summary area, it says Amount of Debt - Not Good. When I go to the next section - Understanding Your FICO Score, it lists 3 things hurting my score 1) Ratio of revolving balances to credit limits 2) Newest account opened 5 months ago 3) Number of accounts with a missed payment. Only time can fix #2 and #3, and #1 is very straight-forward.
None of these 3 have to do with my total amount of debt, which is what I thought was the worst thing shown in the Summary area. So I am confused about where to focus.
Are there certain types of debt that are less damaging than others? Is Mortgage debt treated different vs.Auto Loan debt vs. Student Loan debt vs. unsecured non-revolving debt vs. revolving debt?
How do the # accounts play into the score? Does student loan consolidation help (reducing say 9 accounts into 1)?
To add, your utilization (#1 on your list) factors into that too. Not only do the overall balances factor in, but the utilization (balances/CL) too.
Balances play a small part in the amount of debt. If you added a million-dollar mortgage tomorrow, for example, it wouldn't go from "not-good" to "bad". IMO, the biggest impact to that category is revolving utilization. Ideally, you'd want all but one CC to report $0 and the other to report a balance of under 9% of the CL. Doing that alone can easily move it to "not-good" to "good" and beyond. It rank them, revolving is probably scored most heavily. Installment is next, but again, adding a million dollar mortgage might ding your scores tomorrow, but the ding would likely come from the added account as opposed to the amount of debt. I just added a $500k mortgage almost 2 months ago. My scores dropped, but the drop was due to rebucketing and the added TL (I had been good about not applying for anything in nearly 2 yrs). Since then, the scores rebounded and I'm at par this week when compared to the days leading up to the mortgage being added. In other words, if there's any impact due to the balance, it is almost nil.
Installment loans (e.g. mortgage, unsecured, auto, etc.) are treated virtually the same, though I understand there are some small differences. Revolving is very important. Increasing your utilization, for example, from 0% to 50%, assuming you had a solid mix of credit, could easily drop your FICO scores 50+, if I had to guess. Adding a new loan where the installment utilization hits 100% from nothing won't really impact you (oither than the new credit as mentioned).
Number of accounts have a minor impact, though having a good mix of credit is important (IMO, at least 3 CCs). There are certainly documented cases in here of folks hitting 800 with only one or two CCs and had nothing else reporting to their CRs (but had years and years of history on those TLs).
Number of accounts reporting $0 is important. On the Glance page, you'll see that line item. Ideally, you'd want more than half of your TLs reporting $0.
@CS800 wrote:I also get the 'amount of debt not good' thingy.
- I have one car loan currently always paid on time. Bought car Nov 2010,
- A mortgage always on time
- 3 closed BoA cards;closed in 2007 but on a payment plan and on each card about 15% of total util left to pay
- 1 Cap card with 70% util
- 1 cap card with 0 util
- 1 bestbuy card with 0 util
- 1 collection of $80 which will be paid soon hopwfullt PFD
Amount of debt not good in my case prob means im at 70% on my cap one? Or the 3 charged off from BoA?
Or, some combination thereof. What are the reported credit limits and current balances on all (open with and closed if the balance is greater than zero) of the revolving cards that you've listed? You noted that the BoA cards are closed, but are the ones reporting a zero balance (2nd Cap1, & Best Buy) open?
Yes, but is "Amount of Debt - Not Good" specifically talking about the ratio of revolving balances to credit limits? Or is it more than that?
I don't pay a lot of attention to those indicators on the first screen. They seem to be derived from some combo of the real scoring factors, and I think they're fluff that are there mainly for warm fuzzies, like the positive factors on screen two.
The "positive factors" are actually the negative factors that are hurting you least, or that you don't have, or something. It starts going into double negative land, and that makes my head hurt. I read them as "At least you don't have a big problem with __________ " (fill in the blank with the positive factors.)
Stick with analyzing, following, and fixing the negative factors on screen two. They are what are really affecting your scores.
Yes both Cap one and the Bestbuy are open and reporting.