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Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan

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BallBounces
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Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan

I have a three month old auto loan currently at 94% of loan value.

 

For some strange glitch of a reason, yesterday the loan was reported as paid down to 21%, only on TU and EQ.  EX still shows the correct remaining balance. Weird.  My EX FICO8 has stayed exactly the same foir the last several weeks, and still is.

 

But my EQ FICO8 score, noting the new installmenbt loan balance, increased precisely 20 points.  I presume my TU score has increased similarly, but probably will not check.  I know this is not really new information, but I thought the manner it was collected was interesting.

 

As to why this balance was reported incorrectly to TU and EQ, I have no idea.  Unfortunmately the loan service has the correct balance listed in their records.  Smiley Wink

 

Last note, I think EX sometimes updates slower, it is possible the balance there will incorrectly change  in a couple days as well.

 

 

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BallBounces
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Re: Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan

I am just now reading the other threads about the PenFed screw up.  That is obviously what happened to me.  Absolutely bananas that a company could make such an egregious and impactful error so broadly.  But based on recent PenFedian hijinks, I am not surprised.

 

At least I benefit from it, if only in the theoretical and temporal sense.

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan


@BallBounces wrote:

I have a three month old auto loan currently at 94% of loan value.

 

For some strange glitch of a reason, yesterday the loan was reported as paid down to 21%, only on TU and EQ.  EX still shows the correct remaining balance. Weird.  My EX FICO8 has stayed exactly the same foir the last several weeks, and still is.

 

But my EQ FICO8 score, noting the new installmenbt loan balance, increased precisely 20 points.  I presume my TU score has increased similarly, but probably will not check.  I know this is not really new information, but I thought the manner it was collected was interesting.

 

As to why this balance was reported incorrectly to TU and EQ, I have no idea.  Unfortunmately the loan service has the correct balance listed in their records.  Smiley Wink

 

Last note, I think EX sometimes updates slower, it is possible the balance there will incorrectly change  in a couple days as well.

 


Nice. 

 

Another data point showing 9% B/L ratio is not the magic bullet for improving score with auto loans. Substaintial cummulative point gain is possible prior to 9%. That being said, 9% remains a critical threshold for a file with only an open SSL.

 

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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BallBounces
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Re: Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@BallBounces wrote:

I have a three month old auto loan currently at 94% of loan value.

 

For some strange glitch of a reason, yesterday the loan was reported as paid down to 21%, only on TU and EQ.  EX still shows the correct remaining balance. Weird.  My EX FICO8 has stayed exactly the same foir the last several weeks, and still is.

 

But my EQ FICO8 score, noting the new installmenbt loan balance, increased precisely 20 points.  I presume my TU score has increased similarly, but probably will not check.  I know this is not really new information, but I thought the manner it was collected was interesting.

 

As to why this balance was reported incorrectly to TU and EQ, I have no idea.  Unfortunmately the loan service has the correct balance listed in their records.  Smiley Wink

 

Last note, I think EX sometimes updates slower, it is possible the balance there will incorrectly change  in a couple days as well.

 


Nice. 

 

Another data point showing 9% B/L ratio is not the magic bullet for improving score with auto loans. Substaintial cummulative point gain is possible prior to 9%. That being said, 9% remains a critical threshold for a file with only an open SSL.

 

 


Indeed!  21%, well above 9 or 10.   So many shorthand "rules" we throw around are really just approximations based on us feeling around in partial darkness...

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TrapLine
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Re: Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan

Very interesting! May you silently enjoy the better credit score benefits and not "poke the bear" ...

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BallBounces
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Re: Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan


@TrapLine wrote:

Very interesting! May you silently enjoy the better credit score benefits and not "poke the bear" ...


I am quite confident it will be corrected in the next few days one PenFed CTRL-Zs the copy paste error and updates their load file.

 

It's a massive CU being run by amatuers.

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Amusing and Unintentional Data Point Anecdote on Installment loan


@BallBounces wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@BallBounces wrote:

I have a three month old auto loan currently at 94% of loan value.

 

For some strange glitch of a reason, yesterday the loan was reported as paid down to 21%, only on TU and EQ.  EX still shows the correct remaining balance. Weird.  My EX FICO8 has stayed exactly the same foir the last several weeks, and still is.

 

But my EQ FICO8 score, noting the new installmenbt loan balance, increased precisely 20 points.  I presume my TU score has increased similarly, but probably will not check.  I know this is not really new information, but I thought the manner it was collected was interesting.

 

As to why this balance was reported incorrectly to TU and EQ, I have no idea.  Unfortunmately the loan service has the correct balance listed in their records.  Smiley Wink

 

Last note, I think EX sometimes updates slower, it is possible the balance there will incorrectly change  in a couple days as well.

 


Nice. 

 

Another data point showing 9% B/L ratio is not the magic bullet for improving score with auto loans. Substaintial cummulative point gain is possible prior to 9%. That being said, 9% remains a critical threshold for a file with only an open SSL.

 

 


Indeed!  21%, well above 9 or 10.   So many shorthand "rules" we throw around are really just approximations based on us feeling around in partial darkness...


For whatever reason this caused me to think about Darkness on The Edge of Town by Bruce Springsteen. Now I'll have to dig out my half speed mastered vinyl pressing and play it on my vintage 1979 Yahama YPD8 turntable with Grado platinum cartridge. 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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