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I took the 3B report to a mortgage lender and the woman there said it was useless due to the scores being unrealisticly high. Did I just waste my money?
Thanks for replying. I took the whole 27 page 3B report. I finally have all 3 CRA cleaned up so I can hopefully purchase a home. I did not want anyone doing a hard pull until I decided what I wanted to do. They immediately want to pull reports evidently.
@Anonymous wrote:Thanks for replying. I took the whole 27 page 3B report. I finally have all 3 CRA cleaned up so I can hopefully purchase a home. I did not want anyone doing a hard pull until I decided what I wanted to do. They immediately want to pull reports evidently.
^^Then the person you spoke with doesn't know what s/he is talking about. The mortgage scores are identical to what a mortgage lender pulls.
A good mortgage loan officer should be able to see your report, look at the mortgage scores and quote you an estimate without having to pull your report. If you went to a big box bank then most of the LO's there are no longer trained well enough to help much IME. (Big changes made since the mortgage melt down in processing). They are trained only to enter your info into the computer and not trained on guidelines and other important criteria. Besides the lack of training, the big box banks as a whole have much more stringent overlays for their mortgage programs.
Find a mortgage lender that will answer your questions without pulling your CR - making the assumption that your CR they see from you is correct. Try correspondent lenders/mortgage bankers for the best results. Then when you find a lender you want to work with that is knowledgeable, they will have to have you make official application, pull credit etc.
Find a new lender, period.
A competent broker or lender could look at a full 3B report, identify the 3 mortgage scores they would use, pull out the mid score, and immediately give you a good idea of where you stand. They could also identify problem areas and potential areas of improvement in your profile.
Either your lender is not competent, or you did not bring full FICO reports, or they don't want your business.
Ah well, let's be fair, if a LO has never seen a myFICO report or doesn't know what it is, how are they to know it's accurate? Many LO's aren't nearly as knowledgable as folks on this forum, and I'm sure S10 could tell legions of horror stories regarding LO's, heck we see enough of them on the forum anyway from just members.
Really though this isn't a huge deal, my own experience was simply for 4 out of 5 lenders I talked to:
Me: "My trimerge middle score is 722"
LO: "You sure?"
Me: "Absolutely"
LO: "Well OK then, this would be our rate for that product..."
And the 5th went a little sideways at that last bit and just wound up at:
Me: "Show me your rate sheet"
LO: "It's complicated"
Me: "I'll deal"
And I went and figured it out on my own. Needless to say I didn't have the best impression of the LO after I hung up . That said every single one was surprised when my credit score came back exactly as I stated.
This is just my two cents: I want to buy a house in a year or two and I am rebuilding my credit. I have an account with myfico as well as one with all three credit bureaus just to be sure of accuracy. In myfico I have 620 equifax, 611 transunion, and 626 experian. When I go to experian the score is the same. I go to my equifax and it is in the 500;s I go to transunion and it is still in the 500's, mind you the items that I paid down have not posted to the 3 cra's yet.
I am a bit confused myself and I even called equifax this week and was told the score showing up in their system in the 500's is the accurate one. I like you am not so sure. But I do agree with what others here say in that your mortgage scores are the ones that matter. I am not sure how does myfico have different scores than the actual reporting agencies on two of my reports.
I can just tell you of my own experience and suggest you also check with each individual reporting agency it is best to be safe than sorry prior to getting a hard pull like you said. hope that helps.
btitian wrote:I took the 3B report to a mortgage lender and the woman there said it was useless due to the scores being unrealisticly high. Did I just waste my money?
@Anonymous wrote:This is just my two cents: I want to buy a house in a year or two and I am rebuilding my credit. I have an account with myfico as well as one with all three credit bureaus just to be sure of accuracy. In myfico I have 620 equifax, 611 transunion, and 626 experian. When I go to experian the score is the same. I go to my equifax and it is in the 500;s I go to transunion and it is still in the 500's, mind you the items that I paid down have not posted to the 3 cra's yet.
I am a bit confused myself and I even called equifax this week and was told the score showing up in their system in the 500's is the accurate one. I like you am not so sure. But I do agree with what others here say in that your mortgage scores are the ones that matter. I am not sure how does myfico have different scores than the actual reporting agencies on two of my reports.
I can just tell you of my own experience and suggest you also check with each individual reporting agency it is best to be safe than sorry prior to getting a hard pull like you said. hope that helps.
@Anonymous wrote:I took the 3B report to a mortgage lender and the woman there said it was useless due to the scores being unrealisticly high. Did I just waste my money?
The Fico score I purchased from Equifax a few times (referred to as Score Power) is Fico 04 - the one used for mortgages. The standard MyFICO score is Fico 08 (EQ Fico score 8) which can be quite different from the Fico mortgage score.
If you are getting the full suite of Fico scores through a MyFICO 3B report, the one to look for is EQ score 5 which is also called EQ Fico 04.
The Fico score reported by Experian is Fico 08 so that should match the standard MyFICO score presentation.
Thanks for explaining the difference. Now it makes sense why my scores look different on both sites. Thanks
@Revelate wrote:Ah well, let's be fair, if a LO has never seen a myFICO report or doesn't know what it is, how are they to know it's accurate? Many LO's aren't nearly as knowledgable as folks on this forum, and I'm sure S10 could tell legions of horror stories regarding LO's, heck we see enough of them on the forum anyway from just members.
I don't agree, because the bold is exactly my point. If an LO can not infer what a 3B report is, after the briefest of explanations, that would be my indication to move on. All they would have to say is a qualifier such as: "assumign these scores and reports are accurate and do not change......." and at least they demonstrate an understanding.
If they can't look at these products and know what they are looking at, I don't want them handling my mortgage.
Equifax FICO Score 5
Experian FICO Score 2
TransUnion FICO Score 4
I have shown basic 3B reports to a few lenders. They all knew exactly what they were looking at, and all identified the same possible tradelines that may cause an issue, even if it was not in a format they were used to.